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Old 11-11-2011, 08:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Newb, question about belt tensioner

Hi guys:
Newbie here to site and Toyota ownership. Just bought a 03 Corolla CE with only 37k miles on it. Would like to change serpentine belt. Rock Auto lists two different belts. One for spring tensioner and one for hydraulic. How do I tell which one I have? Thx in advance for any help. Any links to past posts would help too.
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Tensioner: Dayco 89356
Tensioner is automatic.


Belt, assuming you have AC: Goodyear 4060740

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Old 11-11-2011, 09:45 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hi Mike:

Thanks for the quick response/advice. Corolla is a CE with air. You read my mind, because my first choice is a Goodyear Gatorback.
Did some '03's come with spring tensioners and some with hydraulic? Or is Rock Auto listing all possible combinations worldwide?
Doing searches on this site, seems tensioners are weak points on this model. You recommend changing the tensioner along with the belt?
Just bought the car and so far no tensioner issues. No squeeks/squeels yet.
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Hi Mike:

Thanks for the quick response/advice. Corolla is a CE with air. You read my mind, because my first choice is a Goodyear Gatorback.
Did some '03's come with spring tensioners and some with hydraulic? Or is Rock Auto listing all possible combinations worldwide?
Doing searches on this site, seems tensioners are weak points on this model. You recommend changing the tensioner along with the belt?
Just bought the car and so far no tensioner issues. No squeeks/squeels yet.
Joe
All the 8th and 9th gen corollas with the 1zzfe have the auto tensioners. Not sure why rock auto shows otherwise.

I think I miss understood your initial question, I thought you were looking for a new tensioner and needed help on which one to buy. The 9th gen corollas are known to have a faulty tensioner, there was even a TSB for it as you probably found out along with a redesign of the tensioner. If it doesn't squeak now and there is minimal deflection I would just let it go. In the dead of winter my tensioner sounded just awful, it made the car sound like a diesel on start up. Sounds like you got quite the deal to get an 03 with such low miles.

TSB: http://www.z-car.com/lotus/files/200...T-EG021-07.pdf


Dayco 89356 Automatic Tensioner Assembly:
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It is described as automatic, but the arm of the tensioner has a hydraulic damper in it.
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Hi again Mike:

I listed the some of the details of the car and transaction in the "introduce yourself" forum. Got a good deal. Under 5k. And thx again for the part numbers. The car sat for over a year and I'm changing all the wear items and fluids.

Is the Gates tensioner redesigned to reflect the TSB?

Any other issues with 03 Corolla's that I can do preventive maintenance on? Weak points?

Joe

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Old 11-12-2011, 07:37 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hi again Mike:

I listed the some of the details of the car and transaction in the "introduce yourself" forum. Got a good deal. Under 5k. And thx again for the part numbers. The car sat for over a year and I'm changing all the wear items and fluids.

Is the Gates tensioner redesigned to reflect the TSB?

Any other issues with 03 Corolla's that I can do preventive maintenance on? Weak points?

Joe
I am not sure if the Gates tensioner is redesigned after the new toyota part number, I have had it for years along with others on the board, some even change the oil in the tensioner. I don't think the Gates was ever faulty to begin with. You will know when it goes bad based on sound, even if you dont see it leaking. The 03 was the first year of the 9th gen corolla, so they tend to have more bugs than cars later in the life cycle.

Here is what my OEM tensioner sounded like like on a cold day:

The biggest weak point besides the tensioner is the window glass bolts on power windows, not sure if your CE has power windows but a recall was issued for your year. Probably want to change the PCV valve, located under the plastic engine cover on the top back side of the valve cover. Give your VIN to the dealer when ordering this part, it should only cost around 6 dollars. Coolant should be changed, not because of mileage but because of time. I would change all fluids like you mentioned above.

The third biggest issue is a bad intake manifold gasket that shrinks in the winter cold causing a lean condition that makes the engine stumble. It is a very popular topic come winter time on this board. It was replaced with better gasket, this also happened to me. Given your location, this is a very real possiblity.
Tsb: http://toyota.justanswer.com/uploads...rolla_0171.pdf

A very 4th and 5th distant issue is the magnetic clutch relay (AC relay) may go bad, usually after all the pressures are checked it is determined by a mechanic that the expansion valve is bad, as it produces symptoms of a bad valve, but the relay is know to go bad. Many people overlook the relay. Also the bottom storage door on the center area under the radio tends to have flimsy springs that hold the door shut and break.




I would pull the plugs just to inspect and read them, but they are good for 100K miles. They are iridium. Likely if a little old lady drove it around, it is probably caked with carbon and the engine never saw over 5K RPM, might think about a piston soak or seafoam treament if you think the carbon is bad enough on top of the piston when you pull the plugs. Might want to clean the throttle body and IACV too to get rid of carbon before an oil change. MAF is probably clean, but that is really easy to check and clean if needed.

Fuel filter is located in the tank and it is called a lifetime filter by Toyota. Your engine has a mechanical throttle body unlike mine in the video. Toyota had a really hard time with their ECUs on the drive by wire throttle bodies, but yours should be ok.

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Is it manual or automatic transmission?
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mikered30,
Can you provide more info on the window glass bolts on power windows and the fix.
Thanks for your reply.
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Mike:

thx for all the info. I appreciate it. Will take the car to dealer to make sure all recalls were performed. Car is automatic. No ABS.
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Here's the belt pattern with AC in case you need it!

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Thanks guys for helping a newb!

Will order the Goodyear serpentine belt from Rock Auto. Anything have to be removed to replace the belt? I searched the forum and one thread said to remove RF wheel and access plastic panel. Another said remove top plastic attached with acorn nuts. Is this necessary? Seems like I can remove/install belt w/o doing that. I've changed belts on transverse Chevy V6's w/o removing much. Tight work, had to use my "slim jim" style special tensioner tool, but still was able to complete job. I will use the search engine more in the future and not bother you guys too much. Great forum. Appreciate all the responses and your time and expertise.
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If you do decide to buy a PCV valve, get it at the dealer. There are 2 types of threads for the valves. It is only 6 dollars and will be better than any parts store valve.
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Belt is an easy fix, just make sure to make it flat and do the alternator last. I did mine with the two wrench leverage trick. If I remember it is a 19mm for the tensioner
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Belt is an easy fix, just make sure to make it flat and do the alternator last. I did mine with the two wrench leverage trick. If I remember it is a 19mm for the tensioner
57 Belle:

School me on the two wrench leverage trick. Not familiar with that technique.

thx for the tip,
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