Hey everybody. Well I picked up my car last night and shortly after I went to the gym. I was in the gym for approximately 45 minutes. When I got back into my car the starting problem was still there. I couldn't believe it. They put a new fuel pump in my car and it still has the same problem. According to New York state law I have to give them 4 apportunities to fix the car before it can be declared a lemon. Well this is strike 1. I really just want my car to start properly and I will be happy but, it seems my car is cursed. I guess I'm not meant to be happy with this car . I'm going to be calling the dealer later and I'm pretty sure they are going to be surprized. I'll keep you all updated.
OH NO!!! The Factory Technical Specialist checked out my 05 Corolla yesterday and diagnosed the same problem/repair. The car is in the shop until the part comes in and my daughter (I bought the car for her) is driving a truck they loaned her. The FTS said this is the 4th Corolla he has looked at with the same problem and gave me some mumbo jumbo about "fuel bleed down" and "psi". If this repair did not correct the problem with your Corolla I have doubts it will be the answer for mine. ems, you really burst my bubble...I was feeling soooo relieved that there was acknowledgment of the problem and a supposed solution!
Sorry Kathy but atleast I can tell you that it didn't make my car worse. I can also tell you that yesterday and today have been good so far. I advised the dealer that I experienced the problem the same day they gave it back. They asked me if I could give it a chance and that it may have been a fluke. I told them no problem and, that I would call them if it did it again. They told me o.k. and to let them know as soon as it happens again. We'll see what happens in the next couple of day.
Sorry Kathy but atleast I can tell you that it didn't make my car worse. I can also tell you that yesterday and today have been good so far. I advised the dealer that I experienced the problem the same day they gave it back. They asked me if I could give it a chance and that it may have been a fluke. I told them no problem and, that I would call them if it did it again. They told me o.k. and to let them know as soon as it happens again. We'll see what happens in the next couple of day.
Kathy what model Corolla do you have?
I have the 2005 Corolla S
I think it was Phil who said the problem didn't trouble him as long as the car eventually starts, but I am concerned that the long cranking will affect the starter, the battery and who knows what other parts of the car. My main concern, though, is the safety of my daughter and granddaughter, both of whom will be using the car and of course the peace of mind that comes with owning a car that is NOT defective. Lemon Law legal decisions have some important verbiage concerning the "shake faith" aspect of driving a defective car...when faith in the auto is shaken its operation becomes "fraught with apprehension". I'm sure you can relate...
I agree with you Kathy. Today is day #3 of driving the car and ironically the car has been behaving. I have only had that one occurrence. Maybe it was a fluke. I hope so. Well for now it is o.k. but, I did advise my dealer that it did it once. Lets all hope that it is fixed.
Did the FTS explain how the fuel pressure returns to the system after the engine cools, allowing it to start normally. I'm betting they can't do it, while keeping a straight face. One would think it would happen all the time, if it was the pump. The problem is obviously temp related, which would point to the other two points of the fire triangle, air and ignition. I have no experience with these VVTI engines, but it seems that the computer is having a hard time finding the correct settings or making timely adjustments for a normal start.
Hi Karazy. I'm not so sure if the problem is temp releated. You have to take everything into consideration. It doesn't matter if the car is warm, hot or cold in my particular car. It happens at any given time and at any given moment. It may be computer related but I'm not sure what is the problem. Today is day 3 with my new pump and I can honestly say that besides the first day it has run and started perfectly. This is a very odd problem. You also have to remember that although the 2003,2004 & 2005 corollas are the same there are many differences with the 2005 models. Maybe Toyota should look into all the changes they made on the 2005 models and figure out what went wrong.
I think it was Phil who said the problem didn't trouble him as long as the car eventually starts, but I am concerned that the long cranking will affect the starter, the battery and who knows what other parts of the car. My main concern, though, is the safety of my daughter and granddaughter, both of whom will be using the car and of course the peace of mind that comes with owning a car that is NOT defective. Lemon Law legal decisions have some important verbiage concerning the "shake faith" aspect of driving a defective car...when faith in the auto is shaken its operation becomes "fraught with apprehension". I'm sure you can relate...
No, wasn't me. this troubles me alot. I am still searching for a solution for this warm engine problem. Been bugging my salesman, service department, printed this forum and mailed to head office. My salesman said to call the 1-800 number and tell them the problem, also e-mail them because they have to e-mail you back. A lot of the dealers were not aware of this problems because people only complain on the internet and not to the dealers.
ems, after they put in the new fuel pump, do you still have problem starting
when the engine is cold?
Hey Phil I only had a problem on the 1st day they gave it back to me and the car was warm. It has been 3 days now and it has been starting like a champ in the cold and warm. I sure hope it is fixed.
Oh, right, Phil. I looked back...it was Teknix who said the problem didn't worry him as long as the car starts.
My Corolla acts up "randomly". It has the long cranking problem after it sits all night as well as when it's warmed up. It's an intermittent problem, so it's kind of: turn the key and pray. Not the way you want to feel when starting your brand new car...
Hi. I am so glad I found this site.I own a 2005 Toyota Corolla CE and have been having starting problems from the day I purchased the car which was in the begining of October 2004. To make a long story short the fuel pump was replaced a few weeks ago and a few days after I was having problems starting the car again! I waited hoping it was just a fluke and it happened again 2 days later and then again another 2 days later. The car is at the dealers and they have tested it and cannot find anything wrong with it yet nor have they been able to duplicate the starting problem.I am so upset.I bought this car because it was suppose to be so reliable.By the way I contacted the Toyota Customer Assistance Center today and told them about this site and corolland.com and matrixowners.com where there are also other Toyota owners posting with the same intermittent starting problems.(The Matrix has the same engine as the Corolla.)The rep. at Toyota said that people need to call the Toyota Customer Assistance Center so they can track this problem.The # is 1-800-331-4331.
I actually just bought a 2005 Corolla S, I remember reading this thread the other day and i was looking through the car manual today and noticed the page where they talked about the key. In the yellow box they warned to not have the key ring resting on top of the bulk of the key (the black plastic piece) since there is a chip inside. You may have the key ring dangle off the black parts loop, but it can't be flipped upside down to rest on top. For some reason, if that ring, or any other metalic item or key accessories are touching that part of the key, it causes some malfunction. The book directly says that the car will basically not start easily or will start but then turn off shortly after.
To all that have the problem, i would try taking the key ring or accessories off the key for awhile to see if the problem persists because some metalic item(s) may be interfering with the chip in the key.
I hope that is the problem because I certainly don't want to suffer from this ignition problem, I've only had my car for 5 days now.
Is the ignition chip thingy a new option for the 05 Corolla or did the 03-04 have that too? This could be useful if its only the 05's showing the problem.
Hi Sil3nt. I removed my key from all my other keys and it hasn't made a difference. The key chip is a new item for the 2005 corolla but not a new item for other Toyotas. The Corollas and Matrix seem to be the only 2 cars affected by this problem. I seriously doubt the problem is the key.
Hi. I am so glad I found this site.I own a 2005 Toyota Corolla CE and have been having starting problems from the day I purchased the car which was in the begining of October 2004. To make a long story short the fuel pump was replaced a few weeks ago and a few days after I was having problems starting the car again! I waited hoping it was just a fluke and it happened again 2 days later and then again another 2 days later. The car is at the dealers and they have tested it and cannot find anything wrong with it yet nor have they been able to duplicate the starting problem.I am so upset.I bought this car because it was suppose to be so reliable.By the way I contacted the Toyota Customer Assistance Center today and told them about this site and corolland.com and matrixowners.com where there are also other Toyota owners posting with the same intermittent starting problems.(The Matrix has the same engine as the Corolla.)The rep. at Toyota said that people need to call the Toyota Customer Assistance Center so they can track this problem.The # is 1-800-331-4331.
Can you tell us more about the Corolland posters? I went to the website but couldn't find a thread discussing this problem...Thanks!
Also, the dealership that sold me my Corolla called in the FACTORY TECHNICAL SPECIALIST. This person works for the factory (duh) and covers several states, so an appointment was arranged to have him visit AZ. His diagnosis was the fuel pump, and the car's in the shop right now receiving a new one. (After reading previous posts here I don't expect that to fix the problem).
That excuse that they can't "duplicate the problem" is an insulting way of giving you the brush off. What if they "could" duplicate the problem...would they then know exactly how to fix it? Don't think so...
I have an 04 CE..with 31,000 miles, and has always taken 5 seconds to start. Cold ..warm, doesnt matter. I never really put much thought into it. The car always starts, just cranks a lil. I don't see it as a problem.
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According to New York state law I have to give them 4 apportunities to fix the car before it can be declared a lemon. Well this is strike 1. I really just want my car to start properly and I will be happy but, it seems my car is cursed. I guess I'm not meant to be happy with this car 
. I'm going to be calling the dealer later and I'm pretty sure they are going to be surprized. I'll keep you all updated.
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