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ae92Xtruen0Xsr5 · 09-10-2007, 11:34 PM

Hey there toyota nation, I am Noy The owner of a 89 Corolla sr5, i am new to toyota nation but have read threads from the past which actually inspired me to actually tune up my Ae92, i will hav alot of questions to ask in this thread but really im jus trying to bunch it up together so it will be less questions to ask sumwat.

Well first off how i got mai corolla was a few months ago frum a friends friend, whos father was selling a car they were never really using no more, i did not noe wat it was but i thought to mai self if it ran for $200 ill take it so i went to go look at it...it was a white toyota corolla i said to mai self looked at the motor looked greesed up but i was fine with it then looked at the milaige n it only had 124k miles on it so i was guessing it was never really beaten on because to me thats small mileage for an old car like that and for his dad to use it for jus a point A to B car, but it sat there all winter they said so u noe there are sum good rust spots. well any way thats how i got the car.

my first question is that relates to this story is that, is my car really worth more then wat i paid for it? well yea knowing i got it for 200 but im talking about alot more??? because ive seen one sold worse condition then my AE92 with its stock 4aF carbed motor for $1500. reason y im asking is because all my civic buddies are always telling me to get a better car when they noe i aint got money to do so and i want to shove it in there civic face knowing i got a car thats worth more then thier civic(because civics are too common). Well i really fell in luv with the car u can say when i started spanking hondas in my class. (i am a big honda fan by the way im not going to lie) i will tell u my stories on which motor class i spanked later, but i can compeat with their Ls non V-tec motor with my 4aFcarbed motor, well nvm that.

i want to knoe wat i can do with Jus the 4aF motor alone no swap no nothing like that jus upgrade, although i would like to have a 16v 4age blu top, but dats jus pushing it for now. ive herd sum combinations of a 4age block with the 4af head? the guy was trying to go for more torque then BHP, plz tell me how in your mind will that be???because i do sumwat really want to stick with my 4aF because eveyones all about the 4age. not to bad talk in all but i do want to be the odd one in the crowd at times and do things not many ppl hav done u noe???

well i was also wondering if there is a better carb out there that may be better then the stock?E tha that i was thinking in my mind a 4af to a 4afe conversion, will that work? But i really did not want to go through the hassle of finding another Ecu for just that and the injectors fuel pump Ect. well if there is no better carb for my car then i might as well convert. This will probably be the first real tune up i do to my car beside the gaskets i changed and the oil changes from time to time, well there are other tune ups i did but not gettin into detail. Well if u read this thank u for ur patients and i hope new thing will come.

***REN69*** · 09-10-2007, 11:45 PM

Jeez, I couldn't read your thread so I had to fix it.

Proper punctuation is your friend ... does not qualify as proper.

To answer some of your questions, yes the car was probably worth a little more than what you paid for it, if you want to know what to do to your 4AF wait for Flashmn to reply as he's probably worked on this motor more than anyone on here.

As for the 4AF head with the 4AGE block.. never heard of that one.

ae92Xtruen0Xsr5 · 09-10-2007, 11:52 PM

ok man thanks for shedding some light i will try to correct some of my spelling its jus the instant messaging talking...and tell me what kind of tranny do i have? i hear about th C-50 and the C-52? im jus trying to learn the best out of the corollas cuz i jus luv my car...

EverAE · 09-11-2007, 06:28 PM

you could go with a better carb like a 32/36 weber? you could do exhaust but i doubt there would be alot of power to be found there. as far 4age block with a 4af head i dont know, and the 4af to 4afe conversion, you could. but for the amount of work involved in either, why not just do a 4age conversion, its not like youd have to do much more work then a 4afe swap.

Criard · 09-11-2007, 07:29 PM

I think Ren laughed at the 4age block with 4af head is that all of the 4a* engines are in the same motor family and have the same block. what makes all of them different are the heads....

please correct me if I'm wrong

EverAE · 09-11-2007, 11:11 PM

essentially, but the pistons, rods, crank, yadda yadda will be all different, im assuming hes talking about a 4af block and putting a 4age head on (even if your rebuilding the bottom end for that matter)? youll still have to f- with the wiring, still have to do the EFI conversion, might as well do it reliabily with a swap, then a mutt engine thatll take just as much work.

ae92Xtruen0Xsr5 · 09-12-2007, 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by EverAE

essentially, but the pistons, rods, crank, yadda yadda will be all different, im assuming hes talking about a 4af block and putting a 4age head on (even if your rebuilding the bottom end for that matter)? youll still have to f- with the wiring, still have to do the EFI conversion, might as well do it reliabily with a swap, then a mutt engine thatll take just as much work.

nawww i was talking bout a 4af head on a 4age block...reason for doing so ppl say the 4age block is much stronger than the 4af block...and for future planing i did want to boost my 4af so i believe i wanted a better block after fixing the internals on the head u see...but i do see some ppl say that the blocks are the same but im just confused right now...and if i was planing to do a head swap i already know i should just swap the whole motor to save time and money as ppl will tell me too...but my goal is to tune up my 4af anyway possible...but if results are dissapointing...there is a 3sge motor at the junkyard waiting for me and reason why i did not say 3sgte is because someone already salvaged the turbo like everyone does in this town just to put in their sohc v-tec civics...sigh...well thank u for ur time yo...

Rookie_One · 09-12-2007, 02:23 AM

well the 4A-GZE block is better for boost than the 4A-GE :p

punter · 09-12-2007, 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rookie_One

well the 4A-GZE block is better for boost than the 4A-GE :p

The block is exactally the same. As in no difference.

The only difference in the bottom end of the GZE and GE is the pistons. Everything else is the same.

As for the OP, your 4af is like every other engine.
If you want for power you do the regular things.

***REN69*** · 09-12-2007, 11:23 AM

I believe the 4AF comes mated to the 5spd C50, the 4AGE in the AE92s comes mated to the C52 transmission.

I agree, the amount of trouble to do a 4AF hybrid, you might as well do a 4AGE conversion and be done with it, the only hybrids I've heard of or seen is the 4AGE head on 7AFE block (known as the 7AGE) and the 4AGE head on 4AFE block, this one was done on an ALL-TRAC sedan.

Flashmn · 09-12-2007, 11:38 AM

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I believe the 4AF comes mated to the 5spd C50, the 4AGE in the AE92s comes mated to the C52 transmission.

Mine came with a C52

ae92Xtruen0Xsr5 · 09-12-2007, 02:24 PM

ok i see u answered some of my probs thanx but im still wondering are all the 4a blocks the same??? thats what ive been trying to figure out because i would like to stick with my 4af head...and also if i were to do a swap how good would the 3sge do N/A? compared to the 4age? because right now the 3sge is my option for now...and yes no turbo...if u read my earlyer post it was salvaged by most civic owners who just like to boost their sohc v-tec motors...sigh...i would rather have the complete 3sgte...sigh again...

retiredat44 · 09-12-2007, 02:55 PM

I would think Turbo it,,, and probably put new struts on as if those are factory, they are probably going to get mushy soon, if they aren't all ready.. If you want to make the engine go faster and no turbo,, I would say dump an engine in with more horses. Go with 185/R7013 tires. Not sure which you have..
Not sure how you will handle your smog laws with a new engine. That silver top engine trans package looks tasty I see advertised. otherwise..... it's just a cheap transportation car, no more, no less...

If your trans has 2 starter humps, its a C52. Is it a manual trans?

mine has C52.