I was thinking about getting ABS stuff from some other dinky car and rig it somehow. ABS kicks on whenever I step on the brakes or install a pressure sensitive switch or something....
I was on another forum where a guy had a pic of the phdm long gauge instrument cluster and it had an ABS light with sensors and stuff included.
OMG, PHDM also had the Toyota AE92 exclusive rare long 3rd brake light option and a factory air ionizer. WTF!
Uhh I dont think they came with ABS. Go like 30 mph and slam on your brakes, you'll find out for sure haha. If it skids you dont. :-p
But it's such a small light car anyway, I dont see why you'd really need ABS unless you drive in a lot of slippery conditions. Do a 4 wheel disc brake conversion if you dont already have it. My GTS has it, except I need to do some brake work, got me some warped rotors. :-p
They do come with ABS when braking hard just pulse your foot on the brake pedal and watch the results.
I heard somewhere that you should replace your struts every 50k miles. Also, it would help if in the rain you drive more cautiously than you would when it is dry. Wider, better tires will also help with that.
A good driver can outbrake most (if not all) ABS systems by doing what TonkaTom mentioned above. I personally do not like ABS. I've had it come on improperly a few times in my MR2 when I was braking on rough pavement -- it's not a good feeling.
A good driver can outbrake most (if not all) ABS systems by doing what TonkaTom mentioned above. I personally do not like ABS. I've had it come on improperly a few times in my MR2 when I was braking on rough pavement -- it's not a good feeling.
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I don't have ABS either on my car, the upsides is that you can stop shorter by utilizing the threshold braking technique. Another plus is that non-ABS cars offer better braking feedback.
To the OP, I would suggest that you take part in an emergency driver training course, or practice your braking on a wide deserted street on on a rainy day or night to get comfortable with sliding and how your car reacts in emergency situations.
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ABS sucks... /endthread.
I agree.
To me, it's more of a driver aid just like all those other fancy electric nanny systems out there on new cars.
Purist cars without aids ftw.
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A BRZ, a curvy mountain road makes one liter of happiness hormones.
Go onto youtube and watch some of the japanese motorsport videos. They often race cars that never came with ABS, and if any of those videos has a footcam, you'll see how its done.
To be honest, I don't think I can even lock my brakes, they probably aren't good enough lol.
You could have also hydroplaned into the curb. I don't know how old you are or how much driving experience you have, but I hear that sometimes you won't notice yourself hydroplaning. Don't take my word for that though. I've noticed everytime it has happened to me.
Most MODERN abs systems outdrive a average driver by far. Rally and race car drivers are an exception, but theres not many of them on the forums.
Granted you cant compare ABS from the early 90's to modern systems, but even they do have an advantage. Hydroplaning into a corner can happen by two methods: either your tires were so worn out that it caused control failure or you slammed the brakes and thus skidded out of control into the curb.
Oh and phatroyale, with ABS when you slam on the brakes, you're already on the threshhold, its a no brainer.
It was 4:30a and had just dropped my friend off. It had rained that entire night but was just like sprinkles of rain when my car slid. The turn was sharp but I didn't think my car wouldn't handle it as it does very well with other turns and abrupt stops whenever I had to...... I applied the brakes, it slowed down from 30 to about 20mph. Then the front just locked up as was maybe less than 10 yards from the turn. It slid, I let off the brakes, got traction and continued to turn in the right direction, I re-applied the brakes and it took no effort to lock up again. Let off brakes, traction gained, applied brakes again, same easy loss of traction and that curb was inevitable. I swear it was a good distance I started applyling the brakes.
The left front tow hook eye is bent by about 45 degrees, the left front tire blew out instantly and the steelie bent.
I stepped out my car to look how badly the damage was and to see if I could drive it to the lot that was a few yards down. A Solara was making that same turn 10 minutes after and also slid but luckily it's traction kept it at bay from swiping my car...
Some roads around here are so damn slick for no reason.
The hole reason behind ABS is to stop you quicker and help you maintain control when you panic and don't have time to think, hey I should be pumping my brakes. It human nature to slam on the brakes when you Panic. Ok is does have it down points I'll give you that. I had ABS that would come on and off at random but in a few close calls it was my best friend but I wouldn't bother trying to install a system. If you know the streets are bad, drive extra careful and get some decent tires, and if you are going to install ABS get it done professionally.
Geeez! All these replys and nobody answered the question................ No, the AE92 never had ABS.
Wider tires are not better for rain, they aquaplane easier.
Get good quality tires if you are concerned about wet weather traction, and make sure your shocks are good.
If you look at an ABS system carefully, you will see it is quite a maze of plumbing and wiring.
An ABS modification would probably rank up there with a major engine swap.
You did the correct thing by letting off the brakes to regain traction, and reapplying successively.
Now that you know what can happen, you need to start practicing a panick stop technique that emulates the action of the ABS systems, rapid pump and release, and remember the road is slickest when it just starts to rain, or mist.
The people that survive emergencies usually are the ones that have thought through the event, before it happens, and have prepared a plan of action, should that event occur. like.....what would you do if you woke up and found your house on fire?
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'87 Corolla, AE82 FX-16, 4A-GZE swap (autocrosser)
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Modification: Changing something to what you thought it should have been from the start!
Doesnt work in driving. A house doesnt move, plus you have a general good knowledge of the surroundings. Driving is a dynamic surrounding, you'll have to deal with it as it happens. Thus ABS takes one thing away from the drivers mind.
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AE92 Came With ABS Option?
but I wouldn't bother trying to install a system. If you know the streets are bad, drive extra careful and get some decent tires, and if you are going to install ABS get it done professionally.
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