How to increase the performance of the e-brake? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

seddy08 · 08-06-2009, 11:40 AM

Just as the title states, how can I increase the performance of my e-brake? Upgrading my rear brakes?

eage8 · 08-08-2009, 12:39 PM

you can adjust it so it catches a bit sooner... but other than that, your not going to get much out of it.

you could either start lifting weights

or convert to a hydraulic ebrake which is a big pain in the ass and not worth your time.

upgrading your brake pads will only help if you have really crappy pads on there already. is this a GTS? if so I would recommend getting some hawk HPSs. they're great. if it's anything else (aka has drum brakes) I don't think there are very many options for performance shoes.

seddy08 · 08-10-2009, 10:57 PM

No it's not a GTS. Not that I would try converting it to a hydraulic brake, but is that what professional drifters do?

I just want to make it grab harder to make my car more fun to drive. And it feels like it would be easy to snap the cable. Does that sound right?

Also, I know that I could find it if I looked hard, and in fact I am going to search after this post, but what are my reasonable options for my rear brakes? GTS conversion?

Thanks, Seth.

toyotaspeed90 · 08-11-2009, 02:31 PM

"professional drifters" use RWD and the ebrake is only generally used when learning to control the car in a slide.... drifting is using overpowering throttle through the rear wheels and steering with the front.....

if you want to set up your car to slide the rear end out... get crappy tires and stiffen up the front end suspension.....

eage8 · 08-11-2009, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by toyotaspeed90

"professional drifters" use RWD and the ebrake is only generally used when learning to control the car in a slide.... drifting is using overpowering throttle through the rear wheels and steering with the front.....

if you want to set up your car to slide the rear end out... get crappy tires and stiffen up the front end suspension.....

sorry there are a lot of things wrong with this post....

First most drifter do use the e-brake, as well as a lot of other techniques (including the Scandinavian flick, clutch kicking, power overs, etc...) in order to kick the rear end out depending on the situation. most AE86s don't have enough power to overpower the rear wheels just due to power....

also, stiffening up the front suspension will make you understeer like crazy. you would have to stiffen up the rear to make it kick out easier.

bottom line though, trying to drift in a fwd car is dumb and pointless. buy a different car.

*not a drifter*

toyotaspeed90 · 08-11-2009, 05:51 PM

yes, meant soft front hard rear suspension.... was thinking backwards as my ae92 has a large front swaybar and understeers when pushed.....

an ebrake may be used to initiate the slide, but most don't use it.... i've watched too many videos over the course of my 'years' and those that are good don't.... the ae86 is underpowered, which is why you have to use speed.... hence why drifting is dangerous.... any jackass can go out there and pull the ebrake in the middle of the corner to get the car to go sideways, but that doesn't mean they are in a controlled situation....

also, ae86 drifters are used to the characteristics of the car..... they will tap the brake to shift the weight of the car forward, thus removing some weight for the rear... puts the car in a much easier stance to spin the tires.... if you watch really good drivers they won't use the ebrake at all, and will use 2 footed braking, and will be very fast at it....

seddy08 · 08-11-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by toyotaspeed90

"professional drifters" use RWD and the ebrake is only generally used when learning to control the car in a slide.... drifting is using overpowering throttle through the rear wheels and steering with the front.....

if you want to set up your car to slide the rear end out... get crappy tires and stiffen up the front end suspension.....

Haha I'm no moron, I know that they use rear wheel drive cars. I don't want to make my car into a professional drifting machine, I just like having fun while driving. I'm looking for a cheap way to do that.

The hydraulic e-brake question was out of curiosity alone.

wondermelon · 08-14-2009, 02:22 AM

if your idea of having fun while driving is going around corners and pulling the e-brake in a FWD 1.6L Corolla then i am very glad i don't live in the same city as you.

seddy08 · 08-14-2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by wondermelon

if your idea of having fun while driving is going around corners and pulling the e-brake in a FWD 1.6L Corolla then i am very glad i don't live in the same city as you.

If you're such a loser that you're idea of having fun is trying to be cool on this forum, I'm glad that I'm not you.

Wondermelon don't try to turn this into some sort of trash talking competittion as I will not respond to anything else you have to say.

Thanks to those of you that have contributed.

***REN69*** · 08-14-2009, 03:06 PM

so then why would you need to increase the e-brake performance? I can see increasing braking performance, but e-brake performance? unless you live on a steep hill, I don't see any real use to it other than e-braking around corners.

And yeah, GTS rear disk conversion would be the best way to go, I believe you will need the rear crossmember as well and it's probably easier to get the whole suspension and strut assemblies from a GTS rather than just the rotors and calipers.

toyotaspeed90 · 08-15-2009, 06:30 PM

you don't need the rear crossmember.... but you do need the hubs I believe..... you need the rear crossmember if you use ae92 rear stuff in an aeXXX body.

if you want to be able to drive your car to it's max, using the e-brake isn't the option. Take it from someone who goes onto an auto-x and was competing against much newer/high power cars in my ae92.... I still have my drum brakes and my ebrake is loose.....

When driving fast in an underpowered car.... braking isn't your friend..... you have less power to gain the speed, so you have to learn to drive your car under control and to it's limit.... I'm NOT condoning you do this on the street.. but if you can do it on a track you can typically still drive like hell on the street and be safe.... going around a corner and pulling your ebrake is asking for problems..... I get my ae92 to slide when I'm going quickly, but because of how these cars are setup it is an easy slide to control....

also.... learn this.... when you're driving FWD..... when you're in the corners.... don't brake or lift throttle. You will have more control under throttle than braking mid corner.