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Old 08-12-2009, 03:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Convert ae95 to rear wheel drive.

Hey guys. whats the best way to convert my ae95 to rear wheel drive. looking for something easy to do so my cars is better on gas and more powerful.

Its 4WD for your information.

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Hey guys. whats the best way to convert my ae95 to rear wheel drive. looking for something easy to do so my cars is better on gas and more powerful.
Converting a car like that would cost tens of thousands of dollars and you would never make it better on gas and more powerful at the same time, sorry to bust your dreams
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Old 08-12-2009, 10:02 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Hey guys. whats the best way to convert my ae95 to rear wheel drive. looking for something easy to do so my cars is better on gas and more powerful.
wow, it doesnt seem like your experienced enough to even consider undertaking a project of this magnitude, this would take an experienced automotive fabricator thousands of dollars and a ton of headaches trying to get things to fit right ... first off you need to build a tunnel under the car ... secondly, you need to build brackets to support everything (such as tranny, engine, driveshaft) , then u need to modify the rear end to accept the axle ... this all requires frame modification and heavy fabrication, and non of this would give you better gas milage or more power (im guessing your saying horsepower ... when u say power, that is a tell tale sign of a newbie, you should talk in terms of horsepower and torque not the general power)

All in All ... not worth the time or money ... just go buy an AE86 or another rear-wheel drive vehicle

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to the two responders....

ae95 is the 4wd corolla.... it's not nearly as much "fabrication" as you think.

to the OP... it wouldn't be super easy, but you have the correct chasis in terms of post 1987 corolla's....

the problem is.... if you want to go with an FR setup, generally the motor sits perpendicular to how it sits now. The 4wd corolla's actually have a FWD based transmission with a differential that has a rear-end driveshaft output.

you could relatively easily find a T50 and bolt a 4afe or 4age to it and fabricate some mounts.... most things like hydraulics (etc) wouldn't be too difficult as an ae86 is very similar to an ae92.... you may need a custom driveshaft but an ae86 variant *may* work. You would have to fabricate motor mounts and possibly extend the wiring harness...

If you went with a 4age the manifold issue would be as simple as finding ae86 manifolds....
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to the two responders....

ae95 is the 4wd corolla.... it's not nearly as much "fabrication" as you think.

to the OP... it wouldn't be super easy, but you have the correct chasis in terms of post 1987 corolla's....

the problem is.... if you want to go with an FR setup, generally the motor sits perpendicular to how it sits now. The 4wd corolla's actually have a FWD based transmission with a differential that has a rear-end driveshaft output.

you could relatively easily find a T50 and bolt a 4afe or 4age to it and fabricate some mounts.... most things like hydraulics (etc) wouldn't be too difficult as an ae86 is very similar to an ae92.... you may need a custom driveshaft but an ae86 variant *may* work. You would have to fabricate motor mounts and possibly extend the wiring harness...

If you went with a 4age the manifold issue would be as simple as finding ae86 manifolds....
I don't think the existing transmission tunnel is big enough to fit a transmission in though. it's probably just a slightly bigger exhaust tunnel...

but I know people have done this on evos. but I'm not sure if their center diff is the same and if the corollas center diff would be fine with what the evo guys do.
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Weld the center diff solid and take out the front CV shafts at the tulip.... Viola! Instant RWD. haha
Really you'll probably save more gas and headache converting to FWD. Depends what your goal is.
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i HAVE an AE95 sedan, and dont do it, the central tunnel is just a larger exhaust tunnel for the driveshaft, a transmission will not fit

also dont scrap the transmission for that, anyways its an AWD, have fun with it like this
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to the two responders....

ae95 is the 4wd corolla.... it's not nearly as much "fabrication" as you think.

to the OP... it wouldn't be super easy, but you have the correct chasis in terms of post 1987 corolla's....

the problem is.... if you want to go with an FR setup, generally the motor sits perpendicular to how it sits now. The 4wd corolla's actually have a FWD based transmission with a differential that has a rear-end driveshaft output.

you could relatively easily find a T50 and bolt a 4afe or 4age to it and fabricate some mounts.... most things like hydraulics (etc) wouldn't be too difficult as an ae86 is very similar to an ae92.... you may need a custom driveshaft but an ae86 variant *may* work. You would have to fabricate motor mounts and possibly extend the wiring harness...

If you went with a 4age the manifold issue would be as simple as finding ae86 manifolds....
yes i know that it is AWD, everything that i wrote applies to that, the tunnel that exists there, is not a tunnel that can be used as a RWD vehicle. Just because it has a driveshaft going to the rear, doesnt mean you can fit a transmission and a RWD driveshaft in the same space. There is a ton of work and a large budget necessary. For that matter ... if you were going to do the work, then i would choose a different motor, maybe mount in an inline 6 or a V8 and make it a drag car ... ... just kidding, then you'd have to strengthen the frame and blah blah blah, u might as well start from scratch.
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the easiest no BS way to convert the ae95 to rwd would be to sell it and buy an ae86. Seriously.
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So in other words i cant just weld the center diff and take the from cvs out? like super ra said?
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wow, it doesnt seem like your experienced enough to even consider undertaking a project of this magnitude, this would take an experienced automotive fabricator thousands of dollars and a ton of headaches trying to get things to fit right ... first off you need to build a tunnel under the car ... secondly, you need to build brackets to support everything (such as tranny, engine, driveshaft) , then u need to modify the rear end to accept the axle ... this all requires frame modification and heavy fabrication, and non of this would give you better gas milage or more power (im guessing your saying horsepower ... when u say power, that is a tell tale sign of a newbie, you should talk in terms of horsepower and torque not the general power)

All in All ... not worth the time or money ... just go buy an AE86 or another rear-wheel drive vehicle

its funny that you say that. if you werent a "newbie" yourself you would know a ae95 is 4wd. and i mean power as in both torque and general horsepower because then i wouldnt have a full 4 wheels getting powered by a 96hp 4A-F. thats 23hp a wheel.

So before you spam please check your facts.
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So in other words i cant just weld the center diff and take the from cvs out? like super ra said?
I wouldn't think so, if you take the cv's out you will be letting most of the gear oil out of the tranny and with nothing I can think of to plug them you will kill the tranny.
if you haven't even changed a cv before I would say that a conversion is likely too much for you.
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I wouldn't think so, if you take the cv's out you will be letting most of the gear oil out of the tranny and with nothing I can think of to plug them you will kill the tranny.
if you haven't even changed a cv before I would say that a conversion is likely too much for you.
I just changed the cv the other week to pass my warrent of fitness.

Thats pretty much all i know what to do.
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So in other words i cant just weld the center diff and take the from cvs out? like super ra said?
Theoretically it could work although a very barbaric way of doing so.

You would have to leave in the inner tulip cup of the front CVs (disassembling the CV shaft) to keep the seal and prevent fluid from leaking.

It was really a joke and not meant for you to do so, so do at your own risk.

And I agree with the others here that it won't increase your amount of power. 96HP going into 2 wheels is the same as going into 4 wheels, it's still 96 HP used to move the car. The only difference btw the two is the power going into the extra drag of the additional 4wd drivetrain. And in the (joking) case above, you are only gaining back the drag of the two front CV shafts which is probably minuscule.

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Theoretically it could work although a very barbaric way of doing so.

You would have to leave in the inner tulip cup of the front CVs (disassembling the CV shaft) to keep the seal and prevent fluid from leaking.

It was really a joke and not meant for you to do so, so do at your own risk.
Im just wondering. i thought i would ask here because a mate suggested the same thing you did. thanks.
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