ae101 in 4age

[eishiba]

I have a 91 corolla with the old boring 4age 5 speed. I noticed there is a thread for putting a c160 tranmission into a 4age. Is there a thread for a ae101? I was curious what all mods would need to be done. I've changed engines before, just never tried to put one into the other. I'm aware it will fit, I just didn't know what kind of mods I'd be facing. Lets also say I would go with the 5 speed manuel transmission on the ae101.

you mean no body knows or has any kind of idea or anywhere else i might check?

[RobMilkshakes]

well it would help if you first clarify what you want to know....

your post isn't clear at all, it first starts with swapping a six speed on to a 4age? then later comes in a 7th gen corolla and putting a 5 speed with that. I have no idea what the hell you are going for.

[toyotaspeed90]

Originally Posted by eishiba

I have a 91 corolla with the old boring 4age 5 speed. I noticed there is a thread for putting a c160 tranmission into a 4age. Is there a thread for a ae101? I was curious what all mods would need to be done. I've changed engines before, just never tried to put one into the other. I'm aware it will fit, I just didn't know what kind of mods I'd be facing. Lets also say I would go with the 5 speed manuel transmission on the ae101.

I think you have codes all messed up.

all 1988-1992 toyota corollas in North America are ae92's

All 1993-1997 corollas in North America and 1992-199? are either an ae101 or ae102

A C160 refers to a 6 speed transmission. The 5 speeds are C50, C52, C56. AE101's came with C56's. AE111's with a blacktop came with a C160 6 speed OPTION, they were not standard.

If you have a 1991 corolla with an At, then you don't have a 4age.

[eage8]

Originally Posted by toyotaspeed90

AE101's came with C56's.

the first 2 years of AE101s had C52s (and a different throttle linkage), the last 2 years had the blacktop's C56 and the blacktop throttle linkage (better).

but yeah, +1, I didn't contribute to this thread because the original post was confusing and I wasn't sure what you were asking.

[REN69]

I'm still lost on what he wants to do... more clarification please.

[PhatRoyale]

Originally Posted by REN69

I'm still lost on what he wants to do... more clarification please.

+1

[eishiba]

Ok, lets try this again. I have a 1991 toyota corolla. I have a 1.6 4 cylinder with a 5 speed manuel transmission.(third gear scyncro is gone out) I may be wrong but I don't believe this is a 4age.I'm also aware of it being an ae92. If not, someone correct me. I was wondering if there was anywhere one could go to see what kind of mods or anything it would take to put an ae101 into it. I mentioned the c160 tranmission cause i noticed it has its own thread on this site. I didn't know if maybe the ae101 did or not and I'm just not seeing it. I did mention in the first post that it was a 5 speed but I suppose by not saying (manuel) everyone believed it to be an automatic...

[j2b4osan]

Originally Posted by eishiba

Ok, lets try this again. I have a 1991 toyota corolla. I have a 1.6 4 cylinder with a 5 speed manuel transmission.(third gear scyncro is gone out) I may be wrong but I don't believe this is a 4age.I'm also aware of it being an ae92. If not, someone correct me. I was wondering if there was anywhere one could go to see what kind of mods or anything it would take to put an ae101 into it. I mentioned the c160 tranmission cause i noticed it has its own thread on this site. I didn't know if maybe the ae101 did or not and I'm just not seeing it. I did mention in the first post that it was a 5 speed but I suppose by not saying (manuel) everyone believed it to be an automatic...

an ae101 is the chassis not the engine. yo will not be able to fit another car inside yours no matter how hard you try.

if you want to swap in a different engine look at the swap sticky.

[RobMilkshakes]

the ae101 is the model code for a 7th generation corolla with a 4afe engine. the ae102 being the corolla with the 7afe. IIRC you had the sedan with a body kit in the pictures section so unless its been swapped its a 4afe engine.

there were only a 3 speed auto and 4 speed(overdrive) so we knew it was a manual but the codes were all jumbled.


btw unless theres a guy that changes gears for you its manual not manuel lol


edit: j2b4osan beat me to it

[4doorGTS]

I still don't quite get the way your asking it but will try. you have a 4afe engine in your corolla.

The ae101 swap of choice is the 20v silvertop(4age) 5speed factory transmission(c52)

The ae111 swap would be the 20v blacktop(4age) with standard 5 speed transmission(c56) or optional 6 speed transmission(c160)

both of the above swaps will bolt right into the ae92, you have to modify wiring harness, and for the 6 speed trans you need to modify drivers side, side mount.

Of course there will be other small things like throttle cable length, intake piping, power steering if you want to keep it, vacuum lines, etc..

But overall its a simple swap and there is tons of information on it, just have to dig around this and other sites, ask questions. Listing every single thing would be impossible cause everyones is slightly different but the big things I have listed and for the rest once your there post pictures and ask more questions.

And you would love either the silvertop or blacktop compared to the 4afe.

[eishiba]

Originally Posted by 4doorGTS

I still don't quite get the way your asking it but will try. you have a 4afe engine in your corolla.

The ae101 swap of choice is the 20v silvertop(4age) 5speed factory transmission(c52)

The ae111 swap would be the 20v blacktop(4age) with standard 5 speed transmission(c56) or optional 6 speed transmission(c160)

both of the above swaps will bolt right into the ae92, you have to modify wiring harness, and for the 6 speed trans you need to modify drivers side, side mount.

Of course there will be other small things like throttle cable length, intake piping, power steering if you want to keep it, vacuum lines, etc..

But overall its a simple swap and there is tons of information on it, just have to dig around this and other sites, ask questions. Listing every single thing would be impossible cause everyones is slightly different but the big things I have listed and for the rest once your there post pictures and ask more questions.

And you would love either the silvertop or blacktop compared to the 4afe.

Whats the differencen between the ae101 and 111? Just that one is silver and one is black? And how much better are they?

[j2b4osan]

Originally Posted by eishiba

Whats the differencen between the ae101 and 111? Just that one is silver and one is black? And how much better are they?

they are chassis codes for different year corollas.

the 4age blacktop and the 4age silvertop are engines. read the swap stickie for differences.

[REN69]

Yes... you can put any engine from an AE101 into your AE92... no you can't put an AE101 in your engine. this is all basic info available in the forum on stickies and everywhere on the net.

I have Manuel but he wont change gears from me... Orale!

[toyotaspeed90]

Originally Posted by eage8

the first 2 years of AE101s had C52s (and a different throttle linkage), the last 2 years had the blacktop's C56 and the blacktop throttle linkage (better).

but yeah, +1, I didn't contribute to this thread because the original post was confusing and I wasn't sure what you were asking.

LOL, gotta love being corrected incorrectly.

Yes, there are different years of the ae101 and what was available with it -- I was trying to keep it relatively simple.... as most know, the 1992 model year is the odd year as in one part of the world it was one thing and in another, it was something else. The first years of the ae101 20V have a different throttle linkage because they have different TB's on them. Most people don't pay enough attention to this, though.

No ae101 had a blacktop. There are 2 variations of the silvertops, and they were available in 1992 with a C52... C56 came later in the ae101.

The ae111 had a blacktop 20V, a C56, and a C160 option.


Also, for another mentioned that the ae101 = 4afe and ae102= 7afe.... that's only based on the printed chasis code in North America.

AE101 and AE111 refer to the 2 door cars elsewhere in the world. In those same places, the ae102 was the 4 door.

Back to the original poster....

sounds like he has a worn 3rd gear syncro... it happens.... for ease of use... to swap a transmission into your car -- find an ae92 GT-S in a junkyard and use it's transmission. Should give you a slightly different gear ratio. If you just want one that's easy and cheap to find, ANY corolla 5 speed transmission from 1988 through 1997 will bolt up to your car. You can use your starter, flywheel, axles, etc.

***edit***

Before someone trys to be a smartass and correct me....

ANY North America (stock) 5 speed transmission 88-97 will work.

E51's and E58's aren't quite that compatible... but they also weren't stock in corolla's in NA.

[eishiba]

I am aware I could get a used transmission. It would be easier than ripping the transmission apart to get to the syncro. Wasn't fun doing that on my old s-10....! I wanted to do something fun, like get a c160. The way I see it, if I'm gonna do that I might as well get a better engine while I'm at it. So the only difference between what I have in my engine bay and the black and silver top engines is I have a 16v(valve) and they have 20 v. Is that all? Or is 4 more valves gonna make much difference?