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Old 12-15-2009, 01:07 AM   #1 (permalink)
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17570r13 all-season tire recommendation needed

Hi can y'all recommend an all-season tire for 175/70R13 for '88 sr5 coupe? Since install of new set of Michelin x radial dt, at speeds over 40 mph on dry road, feels like car is sliding. Air pressure in all is 30 (placard = 29), car does not veer to one side. A mechanic suggested these tires are too "hard" for this light car. Thanks for any help.

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Old 12-15-2009, 02:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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I dont recommend all seasons at all. They suck during summer and they suck even worse during winter. 2 sets of tires FTW.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:42 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Too hard? Michelins are one of the softest, they're more comfort IMO. I'm currently running on Michelin Weatherwise II. All their grip depends on how good your brakes are and suspension. I have ceramic pads for brakes now, compared to semi-metallics that lock up the wheels easier.

I never really had problems with Michelins. Only one time because they had seven years on it of daily driving of about 30-40 miles a day.

Just to let you know, bad struts can make a car feel like its off the ground and sliding. My buddy had a camry with bad struts, everytime he makes a turn, it felt like it was sliding on and off.
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A reputable shop put car on lift and found nothing wrong mechanically. Struts are only a few thousand miles old. Problem began only after install of these new Michelins.

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Old 12-15-2009, 05:21 PM   #5 (permalink)
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I don't know what the problem is, either. It does sound plausible that it could be your tires, though. Everyone bear in mind that Michelin, just like every other tire company these days (and most companies with large, diverse product lines) , DOES outsource some of it's tire models. Michelin may not even actually manufacture the particular tires in question here. So blanket statements like "Michelin is one of the softest" etc.....really have no validity any more. That particular tire just MIGHT be manufactured by Continental-General, for example....and actually be the same tire as one of C-G's tire models, with perhaps a tread design molded to Michelin's specifications. The point being, it really is nearly impossible to make generalizations about the entire product line of any particular company these days. Some tire models are even sourced from several different manufacturers, depending on size. Since 175/70-13's are at the lower end of the cost spectrum, I would be surprised if these tires are NOT in fact outsourced from another supplier.

No way to know for sure.....but check the country of manufacture on the sidewall. Michelin does have plants in lots of places, but manufacture in China, for instance, probably indicates the tire is not Michelin made, though I can't prove it.

The 195/70-14 Michelin Harmony's on my Camry, by way of example....were actually made by Pirelli, in Italy. Other sizes of the Harmony are made in other places, some by Michelin, some not.

Of course, none of this solves your problem. I can't really recommend a good 175/70-13 all season tire, at this point. But, I will say that the Mich. Harmony IS a good tire. I've had sterling service from mine, so far, including dry and wet traction. However, who knows where (and by whom) the 175/70-13 size might emanate.....and how good they might be ?

IF the problem is a tread compound too "hard" for your light car, the only option is a softer compound. Finding that is a guess, at best. About the only chance you have of choosing a softer compound is by choosing a tire with a lower treadlife rating (and warranty). Even that, however, guarantees nothing. You could try a tire with a higher speed rating. For instance, if your tires are "S" or "T" rated..... then you could try an "H" rated tire. They will cost a good deal more, though. Another possibility is break-in. If your current tires have only a few hundred miles on them so far....they might begin to feel less "greasy" after 1 or 2 thousand miles of wear - this is not uncommon.
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I would give it a few thousand miles like bcp477 said.

a lot of the time with new tires there will still be some of the mold lubrication left on the tire from the manufacturing process. This will make the tire a little slippery for the first few hundred miles.

I would also check your tire pressure with a different tire pressure gauge, preferably digital. there can be a very large range of error between different gauges.
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a lot of the time with new tires there will still be some of the mold lubrication left on the tire from the manufacturing process. This will make the tire a little slippery for the first few hundred miles.
Not forget to mention that almost all manufacturers spray a protective coating on the tires to extend shelf life so their tires do not deteriorate before they're sold. I used to get more complaints on that when I used to work at Sears auto because it's like when you're ashy.
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Sams Club has an all season tire I like for 13"
and they are only about $85 each after install balance, and tax,,

http://www.samsclub.com/shopping/nav...=5&item=479065

175/70R13 82Q Dunlop Graspic® DS-3™

I bought some that had a different winter tread, but don't see them right now..

but these look good

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