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Old 12-17-2009, 10:40 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Special Fuel Tank ???

Great site, long time lurker. I need your help.

I am trying to locate a fuel tank for my 1990 DX ALL-TRAC Station Wagon. It has the 1.6L 4A-FE engine and nobody seems to carry one here in the Northeast. The tank developed several leaks from the top and around the seams and I have to live by driving it with a 1/4 tank of fuel lately.

I ordered one through RockAuto.com and when I received it, my trusty mechanic said it won't fit due to the ALL-TRAC design. He even tried his own sources and came up with the same part number.

Furious, I called RockAuto and after their own research the ALL-TRAC fuel tank is discontinued from their database after acknowledging the part designation for sedans only versus the ALL-TRAC set up. Now I'm desperate.

I tried salvage yards, no luck. Brand name auto part retailers like AutoZone, Pep Boys, NAPA & Advance Auto all tell me it's a dealer item. Before I call the dealer to give me a whopping price quote and 7 day wait for the tank, I thought I'd try this route for feedback and direction. I also need the correct fuel pump part number to nail this job properly.

I hope with some luck I can source a fuel tank here but I do need your help. Below are pics of the wrong tank & part number I am shipping back for credit.
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Old 12-17-2009, 10:45 AM   #2 (permalink)
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If it's a good solution, those autopart stores sells gas tank sealers. I think you can use JB cold weld as well, don't actually need the use of a welder. They're both in the sealant section.
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I appreciate the quick response!

I thought about sealers but to me it would be a Band-Aid fix.

Welding would be out of the question. Kaboom!

I am keeping this awesome vehicle, the fuel mileage and versatility both impress me therefore I am throwing money at it so I don't run into this problem again due to an unforseen leak.

I just called the dealer and it's $457 with a 5 day wait plus my VIN number to pinpoint the correct part. I'm on the fence now with this...
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The JB Cold Weld doesn't involve any ignition source. I think it's like a resin/polymer that goes on like goo but once cured it's as hard as metal. It may be a band-aid fix, it'll be good for an indefinate amount of time until you can find a replacement. Besides gas being able to vapor out, other things can leak into the tank... Salt, water, dust, etc.

I'm surprised the dealer would even have it!
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I spoke with Live Help at AutoPartsWareHouse.com but they gave me the same ol part number (RB576854) and that didn't help yet. http://www..com/search/?searchType=global&N=0&Ntt=RB576854&submit==

I am on Ebay but their photo hasn't been updated yet. I might contact them but as a Seller, I'd update my products for the sure fire sale. Seems unreliable to me in my opinion. Thanks for the Ebay link SCT.

My mechanic phoned me back and wants to do the job right as the tank is dropped and won't charge me storage charges. Old cars are a real challenge!
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That ebay link, I deleted but you caught it anyways, I read it and it was for carb models. I guess it can be made to suit.
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SCT, you've been helpful and thank you!

I have to go to work. I drive a big rig and won't be home til very late.

I wish I could visit a Toyota warehouse outside of the Northeast but I'm stuck here. I may contact the dealer and wave the white flag of surrender to get this tank problem resolved.

As far as junkyards go, I can only imagine the same problem I'll encounter but these ALL-TRACS are rare. Time will tell. I'll update soon.
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That ebay link, I deleted but you caught it anyways, I read it and it was for carb models. I guess it can be made to suit.
tanks for carbed models don't have baffles inside the fuel tanks that you need. I still have the non-baffled tank in my car after I did my EFI swap and my pump starts sucking up air on corners at about 1/4 tank.

also no all-trac actually game with a carbureted engine (in north america) so I highly doubt it's the correct tank.
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Contact the guys at ToyzUnlimited.com and see if they can help you.
I don't remember seeing any, but they might have one in their "Toyota Only" salvage yard.
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tanks for carbed models don't have baffles inside the fuel tanks that you need. I still have the non-baffled tank in my car after I did my EFI swap and my pump starts sucking up air on corners at about 1/4 tank.
That's weird. Wonder why they made baffle-less ones.
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That's weird. Wonder why they made baffle-less ones.
Baffles weren't necessary until EFI came about.
Carb engines don't need baffles because the carb has a float bowl that acts as a fuel reservoir.
The fuel pickup in the tank can cavitate for a few moments and the float bowl will supply enough fuel until the pickup tube gets gas again.

The EFI system starves as soon as the pickup tube is out of the fuel.
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Fucl cell in trunk is one option
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Funny thing is I actually thought about rigging up a fuel cell at first but this is my mothers car actually. She'd have a problem shoving groceries with that in the way.

Update: Local dealership has one on order an part arrival tomorrow morning to the tune of $471 total. Biting the bullet on this one. A very expensive Xmas gift for dear ol' mom. Taking pics for future reference.
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jbweld will NOT seal gasoline, oil, trans fluid, power steering fluid, or brake fluid.,
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