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Old 02-04-2010, 10:49 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can someone please tell me the transmission code for a 91 corolla ae92 5 speed?
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AE92

C50 for sedans (DX & LE) and SR5 coupes.

C52 only for GTS coupes. C52's have a lower first gear ratio, a bit more torqy feeling.
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So how do you determineor find out the gear ratio on a transmission?
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C50 for sedans (DX & LE) and SR5 coupes.

C52 only for GTS coupes. C52's have a lower first gear ratio, a bit more torqy feeling.
Not neccesarily...My '92 Corolla Hatchback with 4A-FE engine had a C52 aswell. As do most Corolla's down here for that matter.

Don't know if there is a difference between US en Europe in that, but here, the C52 manual 5-speed had two variants: The ones fitted to the 4A-F(E) engines and the ones fitted to the 4A-GE's. Only difference was that the 4A-GE C52 had a different final gear (I believe it was 4,058 for the 'normal' C52 and 4.312 for the 4A-GE C52)
From the outside, you can't see which is which. Only way to indentify them is by the engine it was mated to.

Difference between C50 en C52 that can indentify them is that the C50 has only 1 'hump' for the starter on the bell-housing
The C52 has 2 'humps' for the starter on the bell-housing so that the starter could be mounted on either side of the engine
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Not neccesarily...My '92 Corolla Hatchback with 4A-FE engine had a C52 aswell. As do most Corolla's down here for that matter.

Don't know if there is a difference between US en Europe in that, but here, the C52 manual 5-speed had two variants: The ones fitted to the 4A-F(E) engines and the ones fitted to the 4A-GE's. Only difference was that the 4A-GE C52 had a different final gear (I believe it was 4,058 for the 'normal' C52 and 4.312 for the 4A-GE C52)
From the outside, you can't see which is which. Only way to indentify them is by the engine it was mated to.

Difference between C50 en C52 that can indentify them is that the C50 has only 1 'hump' for the starter on the bell-housing
The C52 has 2 'humps' for the starter on the bell-housing so that the starter could be mounted on either side of the engine
yeah, this seems to be a rampant piece of mis-information. from my research it seems all AE92s actually have C52s. Only AE82s had C50s.

one way to see what the final drive is is to put and axle or something in the transmission and rotate it, and count how many rotations the input shaft does or vice versa.

If you account for the ratio of the gear you're in, what you'll come up with is the final drive... but this is a pain
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One day when i'm boring, i made this....
1E -> C140
1MZFE -> A541E automatic
1ZZFE ->C60
18RG -> T50
2C -> W58
2E -> C150
2ETE -> C152
2JZGE -> W58
2JZGTE ->V160
2TB -> T50
2TG -> T50
2ZZGE -> C64
3SFE Rav4 -> E250F
3SGE Célica ST184 -> S53
3SGE Célica ST202 -> S54
3SGTE Célica ST165 -> E50F1 et E50F2
3SGTE Célica ST185-> E150F
3SGTE Célica ST185CS -> E151F
3SGTE Célica ST185 rally JDM-> E152F
3SGTE Célica ST205 -> E154F
3SGTE MR2 Turbo -> E153F
3ZZFE 5speed -> C52
3ZZFE 6speed -> C162
4AF -> C50
4AFE 5speed -> C52
4AFE 6speed -> C162
4AGE 16v Traction -> C52
4AGE 16v Propulsion -> T50
4AGE 20v 5speed -> C56
4AGE 20v 6speed -> C160
4AGZE 1gen/2gen -> E51
4AGZE 3gen/4gen -> E58
4EFE 5speed -> C150
4EFE 6speed -> C161
4EFTE -> C150
4EFTE -> C151 (with LSD)
4ZZFE 5speed -> C150
4ZZFE 6speed -> C162
5EFE -> C150
5MGE -> W58
5SFE Célica ST204 -> S54
5SFE Camry -> S51 manual
5SFE Camry -> A140E automatic
6MGE -> W58
7AFE -> C52
7MGE -> W58
7MGTE -> R154
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Can anyone tell me the gear ratio for my transmission and the one off the black top, the c160? My transmission currently has no 3rd gear cause the synchro quit. I'd like to get another transmission and the thought of the c160 or prehaps another transmission with a bit more torque.
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C160 are 6 speed trans I believe are 4.529 FINAL.
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Have you even looked into what it takes to put a 6spd into an AE92?? Maybe you should do a quick search for the threads on this topic, then decide if you're up to that challenge.

Ferris... 4age 16v propulsion? I'm guessing you mean RWD (rear wheel drive) as that's the only 4age that came with the T50.
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Have you even looked into what it takes to put a 6spd into an AE92?? Maybe you should do a quick search for the threads on this topic, then decide if you're up to that challenge.

Ferris... 4age 16v propulsion? I'm guessing you mean RWD (rear wheel drive) as that's the only 4age that came with the T50.
Yes, rwd....
And i dont know for the T50....
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For Canada/USA:

The only AE92 with the C52 is the GT-S, all other AE92's had the C50. The C50 was even used in the AE101 as well, only the AE102 had the C52.

AE82: C50
AE92 (Except GT-S): C50
AE92 GT-S: C52
AE95: E57F5
AE101: C50
AE102: C52
ZZE110: C59
ZZE130: C59
ZZE131: C60

I can't say what other countries had, but this is what we had here. Confirmed with the EPC and multiple years of NCF books.

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For Canada/USA:

The only AE92 with the C52 is the GT-S, all other AE92's had the C50. The C50 was even used in the AE101 as well, only the AE102 had the C52.

AE82: C50
AE92 (Except GT-S): C50
AE92 GT-S: C52
AE95: E57F5
AE101: C50
AE102: C52
ZZE110: C59
ZZE130: C59
ZZE131: C60

I can't say what other countries had, but this is what we had here. Confirmed with the EPC and multiple years of NCF books.

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For Canada/USA:

The only AE92 with the C52 is the GT-S, all other AE92's had the C50. The C50 was even used in the AE101 as well, only the AE102 had the C52.

AE82: C50 (4A-C)
AE92 (Except GT-S): C50 (4A-F, 4A-FE)
AE92 GT-S: C52 (4A-GE)
AE95: E57F5 (4A-FE)
AE101: C50 (4A-FE)
AE102: C52 (7A-FE)
ZZE110: C59 (1ZZ-FE)
ZZE130: C59 (1ZZ-FE)
ZZE131: C60 (2ZZ-GE)

I can't say what other countries had, but this is what we had here. Confirmed with the EPC and multiple years of NCF books.

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Have you even looked into what it takes to put a 6spd into an AE92?? Maybe you should do a quick search for the threads on this topic, then decide if you're up to that challenge.

Ferris... 4age 16v propulsion? I'm guessing you mean RWD (rear wheel drive) as that's the only 4age that came with the T50.


According to the thread you have to change clutch slave, the mounting bracket you have to put new holes in. Some cutting is involved in order to make the shifter go into reverse. The only part i need to do some reading up on is the clutch fork. the thread was for a c52 and I have a c50, according to SCT. Am I missing anything?
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