Any one ever heard or try this stuff?

[fremontguy01]

A buddy of mine said this stuff works better than seafoam. LOL I've never even tried seafoam . Anyone ever try this stuff?

BG 44K® Power Enhancer®
BG 44K® Power Enhancer® safely, rapidly and thoroughly removes engine deposits in combustion chambers, intake manifolds, ports and on valves. It restores flow in fuel injectors and cleans the entire fuel system. BG 44K® Power Enhancer® improves fuel economy and reduces exhaust emissions. It restores that “like new” driveability to an engine’s performance and keeps it running better, longer and more efficiently. Add one can or bottle to fuel tank at fill up. Catalytic converter and oxygen sensor safe. NOTE: After cleanup with BG 44K® Power Enhancer,® regular use of BG Supercharge®II, Part No. 202, in gasoline engines or BG Diesel Fuel Conditioner with DPL, Part No. 2276, in diesel engines will prevent deposits from forming in the fuel system and upper engine for maximum driveability and fuel economy.
Part No. 208
Part No. 208A
11 oz. (325 mL) can
11 oz. (325 mL) bottle

BG 9210 Inject-A-Flush® Apparatus
The BG 9210 Inject-A-Flush® Apparatus provides a highly effective “on engine” cleaning of the entire fuel system. The BG 9210 is pressurized by shop air. It is designed to be used with BG Fuel Injection System Cleaner, Part No. 210, and BG Air Intake System Cleaner, Part No. 206.
Part No. 9210LBC
Part No. 9210

BG ISC® Induction System Cleaner™
BG ISC® Induction System Cleaner™ will quickly and safely clean fuel injectors and remove hard, baked-on carbon deposits from intake ports, intake valves and combustion chamber. It is designed to be used with the BG 9210 Inject-A-Flush® Apparatus. For complete cleanup, BG ISC® should be used in conjunction with BG 44K,® Part No. 208, added to the vehicle fuel tank at time of service. BG ISC® will not harm gaskets, seals, hoses or any component in the fuel system if recommended cleaning procedure is followed. Catalytic converter and oxygen sensor safe.
Part No. 211
11 oz. (325 mL) can

BG Air Intake System Cleaner
BG Air Intake System Cleaner is an extremely effective solvent/degreaser formulation that quickly removes sticky, heavy deposits which accumulate in the air throttle body assemblies and plenums of modern, multi-port fuel injected engines. Cleanup reduces harmful exhaust emissions and restores engine performance. Catalytic converter and oxygen sensor safe. BG Air Intake System Cleaner is designed to be used with the BG 9210 Inject-A-Flush® Apparatus.
Part No. 206
11 oz. (325 mL) can

BG Fuel Injection System Cleaner
BG Fuel Injection System Cleaner is a specially formulated blend of solvents, high molecular-weight dispersants and deposit control additives which will quickly, effectively and safely clean fuel injectors and help remove upper engine deposits. This product is designed to be used with the BG 9210 Inject-A-Flush® Apparatus and BG 44K® Part No. 208. BG Fuel Injection System Cleaner contains deposit control additives which “pre-soak” rock-hard valve deposits. This allows the powerful cleaning ingredients in BG 44K® to provide even more effective cleanup. Not harmful to any fuel system components including gaskets, hoses, metals, fuel tank bladders, fuel pumps, O-rings, etc. Catalytic converter and oxygen sensor safe.
Part No. 210
11 oz. (325 mL) can

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BG EGR Service Tool
The BG EGR Service Tool completes the total decarbonization of the engine fuel system. By removing the EGR valve and installing the proper adaptor plate, the technician can quickly and efficiently flush out accumulated deposits from EGR circuit and exhaust tubes. Deposits are dissolved for easy digestion by the engine combustion system. To be used with BG ISC® Induction System Cleaner‚™ Part No. 211.
Part No. 9240

BG AIS Cleaning Tool
The BG AIS Cleaning Tool is specially designed for use with BG Air Intake System Cleaner‚ Part No. 206‚ to remove sticky, heavy deposits inside the air throttle body and plenum area. It will also clean the back side of the throttle plate. The BG AIS Cleaning Tool is designed to be used with the BG 9210 Inject-A-Flush® Apparatus to supply the product.
Part No. 9206

BG CF5®
BG CF5® gasoline supplement is a unique, high-tech formulation designed to provide deposit control throughout the life of the engine. Added to vehicle fuel tank every 5,000 miles, BG CF5® will keep intake manifolds, intake ports, intake valves and combustion chambers clean and free of damaging deposits. Maintains “like-new” engine performance. One 11 oz. (325 mL) can treats 15 gallons (57 Liters) of fuel. Catalytic converter and oxygen sensor safe.
Part No. 203
11 oz. (325 mL) can

BG 207
Deposit Control Fuel Treatment
BG 207 is a deposit control additive which prevents formation of injector and intake valve deposits. Provides BMW “lifetime” IVD protection and meets the equivalency requirements for BMW Gasoline Additive #88 88 6 900 307. It also controls carburetor throttle body deposits. Prevents rust and corrosion in fuel systems. Used regularly, BG 207 reduces driveability problems caused by engine deposit build-up. One 6 oz. (177 mL) bottle treats 12 gallons (45 Liters) of fuel.
Part No. 207
6 oz. (177 mL) bottle

BG Supercharge® II
Used regularly in each tankful of gasoline, BG Supercharge® II will prevent deposit formation throughout the fuel system. BG Supercharge® II improves engine performance and gas mileage, lowers exhaust emissions and substantially reduces driveability problems caused by deposit buildup. It prevents rust and corrosion and provides long-term storage stability. Non-injurious to all types of materials used in fuel systems. Catalytic converter and oxygen sensor safe. One 6 oz. (177 mL) bottle treats up to 15 gallons (57 Liters) of fuel.
Part No. 202
Part No. 20212
6 oz. (177 mL) bottle
12 oz. (355 mL) bottle

[Ghostyman]

Never used it myself. If it's similar to Seafoam, then it will be a semi-effective cleaner. Seafoam is fun, but stupidly expensive for what it does.

Fuel systems rarely need the amount of cleaning that people think. But if you want to keep it clean, run your tank down most of the way and then dump in some mineral spirits (white spirit for you foreigners) and drive around until you're about to run out of fuel. It's a good solvent that is also compatible with your engine.

For cleaning the combustion chamber and intake, I use ATF. Yes, automatic transmission fluid. This is the fun part of Seafoaming a car where thick white smoke shoots all over the place. ATF does the exact same thing.




Finally, for cleaning the oil system and interior passages of the engine, I recommend adding a quart of ATF to your oil and driving for at least 500 miles. This certainly isn't meant to be a definitive statement on ATF in the oil, but here's how my head looked after running ATF through it (unfortunately I don't have prior pics to compare to):




There's nothing magical about Seafoam or any of these additives/cleaners. If you take a look at the MSDS sheets for them, you can pretty much recreate them for pennies on the dollar.


Hope this helps or at least gives some ideas.

[Donald]

Beware of ANY additive that claims to boost fuel economy. They don't work.

Like Ghostyman said, a little ATF in your oil will work wonders.
Other than that, keep using good gas (TopTierGas) and your fuel system will be OK.

If your engine is venting a lot of oil into the intake, then you will get a carbon-like dirt buildup, which a spray carb/intake cleaner will remove.

I have nevet tried Seafoam myself, but several guys on the Tercel/Paseo forum swear by it.

[ktownkrolla]

hey guys. i use all the BG products personally and i also sell them in my shop. My dad is a firm believer in honesty, and if none of this stuff worked in his personal vehicles he would not sell them on his shelves. when using the injection/induction service it is amazing to watch all the carbon vanish from inside the throttle. you should try it. you will be amazed by your results.

[Flashmn]

Most octane boosters and additives are kerosene based.... I wouldnt put that shit in my car

[fremontguy01]

Yea this stuff is pretty expensive also. I'll give it a shot anyways to see how well it works. Thanks for all the input. Is putting ATF fluid in your engine bad? And if not how much do you put in your intake manifold a quart or so?

[Ghostyman]

Originally Posted by fremontguy01

Thanks for all the input. Is putting ATF fluid in your engine bad? And if not how much do you put in your intake manifold a quart or so?

Not bad at all. Just use a third of a quart or so. After it burns off, repeat as desired.

[eage8]

Originally Posted by Ghostyman

Not bad at all. Just use a third of a quart or so. After it burns off, repeat as desired.

ATF will eat rubber seals and is just all around bad stuff. I would just use sea foam or something actually designed to clean an engine and is safe for the seals.

[fremontguy01]

Originally Posted by eage8

ATF will eat rubber seals and is just all around bad stuff. I would just use sea foam or something actually designed to clean an engine and is safe for the seals.

Uh oh, that doesnt sound too promising. Can anyone else vouch for this?

[Ghostyman]

Originally Posted by fremontguy01

Uh oh, that doesnt sound too promising. Can anyone else vouch for this?

No. Eage8 usually knows his stuff but this is an old wives tale. ATF doesn't eat rubber any more than regular oil does.

Transmissions have rubber seals in them too, don't they?


(To put some actual data behind my self-assured proclamations, I checked Eneos, Mobil1, and Xtreme Pure-Flo ATFs... all describe themselves as compatible with rubber. I don't have any ATF around the house or I would check that as well.)

[eage8]

Originally Posted by Ghostyman

No. Eage8 usually knows his stuff but this is an old wives tale. ATF doesn't eat rubber any more than regular oil does.

Transmissions have rubber seals in them too, don't they?


(To put some actual data behind my self-assured proclamations, I checked Eneos, Mobil1, and Xtreme Pure-Flo ATFs... all describe themselves as compatible with rubber. I don't have any ATF around the house or I would check that as well.)

I could be off base, but I've personally seen engine seals from an RX-7 that have been soaked in ATF and they swell up like crazy. I assume the seals in a transmission are made of a different type of rubber.

it might be specific to rotary seals, but I think it's much more likely that automatic transmission have special seals to coop with ATF.

I would still recommend getting something that's actually designed to clean an engine.

[fremontguy01]

Hey another question thats totaly kinda off topic. I removed my valve cover a few weeks ago to replace my seals and the underside of the cover looked like the fan vents on a kitchen stove . What is that?

[RogueMoog]

Originally Posted by fremontguy01

Hey another question thats totaly kinda off topic. I removed my valve cover a few weeks ago to replace my seals and the underside of the cover looked like the fan vents on a kitchen stove . What is that?

Possibly the engine oil burning onto the valve cover, likely due to poor maintenance of a previous owner. I bought a longblock for my del Sol to keep it running while I decide what to do for a rebuild of my original engine... that longblock's valve cover was dark brown inside, whereas my original valve cover was just a sort of golden honey color.

[Createdtoburn]

Hey, regardless of what anybody else says, everybody has their own opinions. But at my shop (Ford Dealership) all of our Fluids are either Motorcraft or BG Products. ALL of our Fluid flushing machines and servicing machines are from BG Products. They make really good shit. I trust all their stuff and I've seen it work pretty well. Not to mention they back up their products real well! And one benefit at my shop, is in our 5-20 and 5-30 oil guns we use Synthetic Blend Motorcraft oil, and we have giant containers of MOA that inject directly into our oil. It's good shit!

And yeah, all of their products are professional, the people that work for them know what they're talking about, I even went to a training class that they hosted, and it was amazing the information you can learn about just fluids in your vehicle alone. So dont be afraid to give them a try, some of the stuff is a little expensive, but it's great!

[Donald]

Originally Posted by Createdtoburn

So dont be afraid to give them a try, some of the stuff is a little expensive, but it's great!

I agree.
Give it a try and let us know what you find, but don't espect a milage increase.

I tried a bottle of "Ethos" (I think it was 2 Quarts), followed the instructions carefully, filled up at the same station, same pump, same direction, every time, and saw no improvement.