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Old 05-27-2010, 02:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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AC delete = radiator fan always running?

Ok, so I finally got around to removing the rest of my AC system the other day. (condenser + dryer + AC fan)

now when I turn on my car my radiator fan runs all the time... was it some how connected to the AC fan?

anyone have the same issue?
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Old 05-27-2010, 04:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just put back the AC fan should be problem solved, I have all the stuff in my car, but I burst a line during dynoing as it hit the manifold, but fans dont run all the time. They are connected though..
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weird, I'll have to look at the wiring diagram and jumper or ground a pin or 2....

I don't want to put it back because it mounts to the condenser and it's already on it's way to the dump...

I took all the crap out because I wasn't using it any more. my normal radiator fan will work just fine...
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I had the same issue come up when I removed the AC from my sedan. I just ran a loop of wire off of the hot side of the wiring to the radiator fan....ran that into the cockpit....and installed a toggle switch on the instr. panel. Works just fine.....and good enough for me.
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...yeah and when you forget to flip it on... bubble bubble boil and broth... :P
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Old 05-27-2010, 05:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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...yeah and when you forget to flip it on... bubble bubble boil and broth... :P
yeah... I would like to avoid that solution...

especially since my megasquirt already controls the built in fan relay...
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Ok, so I figured it out.

There is a switch in the high pressure (small) line of the AC system that turns the radiator fan on when open.

So look for a Blue plug with green wires going to it near where the AC lines go into the firewall and bridge that connector. the wire you bridge it with doesn't have to be very thick because it's just for a relay.

after you bridge that connector you'll connect the relay back to the water temp switch and it'll work normally.
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Besides weight reduction, does removing the compressor actually takes a load off the engine? Always thought the pulley was free-running when the A/C is off.
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...yeah and when you forget to flip it on... bubble bubble boil and broth... :P


Forget to flip it on ??? What, do YOU never look at your instruments while driving your car ? I don't have that problem, fortunately. It is a simple matter to monitor the temp indicator (which works correctly, by the way)....and flip the switch when needed. Not too tough, really .

As for the "proper" solution, as posted by eage8, of course, his way is ultimately better, technically speaking....but it sure as heck ain't simpler. But, for those whoI can't handle looking at their instruments.....well then.
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The AC pulley does create drag....roughly 1 / 2 to 1 hp (so I have read) ... even while disengaged. With the AC engaged, it's more than 5 hp.

That isn't why I got rid of my AC, though. I got rid of mine for three reasons :

I didn't use it and it didn't work, anyway.

Less clutter in the engine bay.

Small weight reduction....which never hurts.
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What, do YOU never look at your instruments while driving your car ?
No I tend to look where I'm driving.... I'd just rather not have another thing to worry about while driving...
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Forget to flip it on ??? What, do YOU never look at your instruments while driving your car ? I don't have that problem, fortunately. It is a simple matter to monitor the temp indicator (which works correctly, by the way)....and flip the switch when needed. Not too tough, really .

As for the "proper" solution, as posted by eage8, of course, his way is ultimately better, technically speaking....but it sure as heck ain't simpler. But, for those whoI can't handle looking at their instruments.....well then.
I don't really understand how putting a paper clip in a connector and it works like it used to isn't way simpler than running wires to a switch and then having to remember to turn your fan on all the time

sure, it's not that hard to turn on your fan at lights, but there's going to be that one time something else is on your mind and you forget and you warp your head... I'd much rather just have a computer remember to do it for me

if I were you I'd rip the switch out and jumper the connector and be done with it
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Besides weight reduction, does removing the compressor actually takes a load off the engine? Always thought the pulley was free-running when the A/C is off.
it has an electric clutch in it, so it's pretty much just and idler pulley when it's off.

I took mine out for simplification/less clutter and weight reduction because the pump on my ST didn't match up with the lines on my AE92 which already had leaks all over the place...

and all the AC stuff does weigh a pretty good amount. I'd guestimate maybe like 50 lbs.
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I don't really understand how putting a paper clip in a connector and it works like it used to isn't way simpler than running wires to a switch and then having to remember to turn your fan on all the time

sure, it's not that hard to turn on your fan at lights, but there's going to be that one time something else is on your mind and you forget and you warp your head... I'd much rather just have a computer remember to do it for me

if I were you I'd rip the switch out and jumper the connector and be done with it

I thought I understood, from your posted solution, that in addition to bridging the connector...it was necessary to run a bypass wire from the fan relay. I must have misunderstood, then. If it is as simple as finding and bridging the connector....that certainly is very simple.
Honestly, my "manual method" isn't a problem in use, especially since I seldom need to use the fan anyway....(forgetting and "warping the head" isn't going to happen)
...but I certainly agree that an automatic fan is better all round. So, when I get the chance, I'll bridge the connector on my car.
Thanks for posting this info, by the way.
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i removed my ac for same reasons. didnt work and anyways its a convertible id much rather put down the roof. but now my radiator fan doesnt stop. Did you ffind the plug he was talkin about ? i think i found it but there are 4 connectors, i dont want to bridge the wrong ones and screw somethin up.

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