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Old 06-17-2010, 07:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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AE92 Electrical Problem

So I thought my car was running great until today I go to start it and it does the same thing is used to before I replaced the starter and the solenoid.
I have at this point in the ignition system replaced the electronic ignition part, the start and solenoid, the entire distributor and got a new battery. What could cause the car to when I turn the key to just have nothing?
I am thinking there is a bad ground or a crapped out wire somewhere from the ignition to the ignition to the battery or the battery to the starter... I am for the most part at complete loss and can't figure this issue out.
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:09 PM   #2 (permalink)
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When you say "nothing", does EVERYTHING just shut off (all electronics, etc) or all electronics just come on but don't go off when you try to start?

I would check all grounds.
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Oh well i have my accersories and all that. like my stereo and vents work but it doesn't click or turn over when I turn the key to turn it over
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If the replacement starter was a rebuild maybe it crapped out already. Does it have a warranty? Also did you clean both terminals and clamps on battery cables with a wire brush? . The slightest bit of corrosion will give you the symptoms you are having.
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ya I cleaned the battery cables before I put them on and the new battery has no corrosion on it yet.
Whats weird is when the car runs cold like when it sits and cools down its fine and will start and turn off and start again. it isn't over heating though either. It runs a little cooler than normal. I'm thinking about pulling my thermostat out and seeing if it solves the issue and then slowly replacing wires and looking for where a short or bad ground could be.
it doesn't make sense that heat would have anything to do with it it though if i'm not overheating.
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If engine is running at right temp I would leave stat alone. If only acts up when engine is hot it's a hot soak problem. If it never happened with original it could be a bad starter. Only other thing you could do is attempt to shield the starter from the heat with something that won't short out connections or start fire.
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so I grabbed a ground wire just about an hour ago and it literally just broke.
I think I found my problem haha
I replaced it and it seems to be fine.. I pushed the car pretty hard and got it up to temp and a little warmer actually and shut it off and started it back up again and it just fired up.
normally it would not.
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Glad you got it fixed. Where was that ground wire that you found was bad? Just curious in case I ever have the same problem.
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Glad you got it fixed. Where was that ground wire that you found was bad? Just curious in case I ever have the same problem.
just follow the battery cable ground. it goes to the body then the transmission and it had a small second plug/ground that also ran to the body on the other end of this small plug.
You'll see it if you follow it
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I thought all my electrical problems were gone until last night on my way home at about 12:30 am my car fills with smoke and under my steering wheel area it glowing.
My car decided to catch fire last night. I pulled off the side of the freeway grabbed my screwdriver from the back seat broke the under piece off and poured my monster all over it and it put out the lil fire that had started. I then hopped out and undid my battery and stood like 5 feet away from the car and stared at it like wtf just happened. it was an eventful night.
The best part is it won't start now and I couldn't get anyone to pick up their phone and about 5 minutes after I give up on calling people and my phone is dying State Patrol rolls up and so I told him what was goin on and he gave me a ride home.
Gotta love it baby!

the fire part still sucked like shit and i'm pretty sure some important stuff melted. I still can't figure out what it was though.
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I thought all my electrical problems were gone until last night on my way home at about 12:30 am my car fills with smoke and under my steering wheel area it glowing.
My car decided to catch fire last night. I pulled off the side of the freeway grabbed my screwdriver from the back seat broke the under piece off and poured my monster all over it and it put out the lil fire that had started. I then hopped out and undid my battery and stood like 5 feet away from the car and stared at it like wtf just happened. it was an eventful night.
The best part is it won't start now and I couldn't get anyone to pick up their phone and about 5 minutes after I give up on calling people and my phone is dying State Patrol rolls up and so I told him what was goin on and he gave me a ride home.
Gotta love it baby!

the fire part still sucked like shit and I'm pretty sure some important stuff melted. I still can't figure out what it was though.

Oh man that sucks! Sorry to hear. Sounds like you had a major short in your wiring somewhere. I'm very surprised that a fuse didn't go before it fired up.

How bad did the wiring get melted? Might be time to say good bye to that car.
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Sounds like a nasty electrical gremlin going on there. Sounds like a short in the ignition switch and or wiring. I thought about getting a fire extinguisher. You just convinced me.
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I went to it this morning and was able to fire it right up.
I found what shorted. the idiot that had the car previous to me hooked up a switch to the main fan and said that he had checked and made sure it was all good. and there was an inline fuse and the wires were thick enough. Well he lied on both. I was stupid for not double checking but the switch melted, the wires melted and started to catch fire and so my switch was then on fire and there was no inline fuse. he had like speaker wire on the thing.
Like I said, stupid for not double checking. all it ruined was melted some cover parts on the steering column and under dash piece and my interior lights are gone now because it melted through that.
I advice (even if some dumb shit didn't do a hack job wiring set up) to always have a fire extinguisher. I used one on my Jeep before and glad I had it
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