ae92 4A-FE what standard tranny could and should i drop in .. ? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

ghost91rolla · 07-09-2010, 08:46 PM

What type of standard transmission could i drop in here w/ my stock engine . ?
and can some one tell me what kind of price i am looking at for that transmission

Blof-fan · 07-10-2010, 09:29 AM

OEM Corolla's have a C-52 gearbox attached to their 4A-FE engine

Can't help you with a price I'm afraid. I have no idea what US junkyards ask for a used gearbox

Donald · 07-10-2010, 09:35 PM

Prices I have seen here in NC run from $75 at a u-pull-it, to $400 at a they-pull-it salvage yard

***REN69*** · 07-10-2010, 09:49 PM

Actually north american 4AFE's came attached to C50s... but yeah, C52 from a GTS.

ghost91rolla · 07-11-2010, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by REN69

Actually north american 4AFE's came attached to C50s... but yeah, C52 from a GTS.

is that right so what would i be able to put in my car .. ?

Blof-fan · 07-11-2010, 04:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ghost91rolla

is that right so what would i be able to put in my car .. ?

Both will fit. They are in essence the same, only the gear ratio's are different. (And some C-52's have two 'starter humps' but that doesn't affect anything)
The 4A-FE in my AE92 Hatchback has a C-52 attached to it, so that will defenitly work

ghost91rolla · 07-11-2010, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Blof-fan

Both will fit. They are in essence the same, only the gear ratio's are different. (And some C-52's have two 'starter humps' but that doesn't affect anything)
The 4A-FE in my AE92 Hatchback has a C-52 attached to it, so that will defenitly work

and they are both standard trannys .!

Blof-fan · 07-11-2010, 02:07 PM

Indeed they are

ghost91rolla · 07-11-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Blof-fan

Indeed they are

nice i will look out for these can you give me an i dea as to what modle the trannys come in .. ?

eage8 · 07-11-2010, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ghost91rolla

nice i will look out for these can you give me an i dea as to what modle the trannys come in .. ?

corollas and geo prizms I think the 7th gen corollas came with C52s as well. The GT-S version is going to be sportier due to the gearing, but get worse gas mileage.

you can also get a C56 from a japanese blacktop or silvertop 20V 4AGE (a lot of RWD corolla guys get rid of them when they swap.

ghost91rolla · 07-12-2010, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by eage8

corollas and geo prizms I think the 7th gen corollas came with C52s as well. The GT-S version is going to be sportier due to the gearing, but get worse gas mileage.

you can also get a C56 from a japanese blacktop or silvertop 20V 4AGE (a lot of RWD corolla guys get rid of them when they swap.

hmm aight koo i recently tlked to my dad and he didnt like the fact i want to drop a standard tranny in the car .! he dosnt think i can do it .!

but aside from that what engine would be worth dropping in the car w/ the standard tranny .. ?

Donald · 07-12-2010, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by REN69

Actually north american 4AFE's came attached to C50s... but yeah, C52 from a GTS.

I thought the C-52 was the one with the starter mounting location both front and rear, while the C-50 only had one mount location?

I have seen a couple of gearboxes with front and rear mount locations on AE92s with 4A-FEs, one of which I owned.

Donald · 07-12-2010, 09:02 AM

A C-50 and a C-52 look very similar and they are very similar. They share many parts. The key factor is that a C-50 has a boss or hump for the starter motor on the front side of the transmission case. (The front side is away from the differential, or if looking at one on a car, the exhaust side of the engine.) On the other hand, the C-52 has two starter bosses, one in the front and one in the back. The normal 1.0 kW or 1.4 kW starter can be bolted in place on the front position under the exhaust manifold. The 1.4 kW starter from a supercharged MR2 can be bolted to the rear boss. I have seen C-52s that have the bolt holes already drilled and tapped for the starter in the rear position and I have seen others that need to be drilled and tapped but the mounting points are there.

Copied from: http://www.wcengineering.com/articles/toyotatrans.html

ghost91rolla · 07-12-2010, 11:02 AM

lol this is a lot of info that for the help guys .! soi should look for a c50 tranny .! is there any way to know the model once its pulled out .. ?

SuperRA · 07-12-2010, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Donald

A C-50 and a C-52 look very similar and they are very similar. They share many parts. The key factor is that a C-50 has a boss or hump for the starter motor on the front side of the transmission case. (The front side is away from the differential, or if looking at one on a car, the exhaust side of the engine.) On the other hand, the C-52 has two starter bosses, one in the front and one in the back. The normal 1.0 kW or 1.4 kW starter can be bolted in place on the front position under the exhaust manifold. The 1.4 kW starter from a supercharged MR2 can be bolted to the rear boss. I have seen C-52s that have the bolt holes already drilled and tapped for the starter in the rear position and I have seen others that need to be drilled and tapped but the mounting points are there.

Copied from: http://www.wcengineering.com/articles/toyotatrans.html

That's interesting, because I thought 4AFs all had rear mounted starters which would lead me to believe that C50s mounted to 4AFEs would have (if indeed only have one hump) their one hump in the rear.

Blah, this subject never has any definite answers.

Ghost - I'd recommend looking for the C52 and then only get a C50 if you can't find one.