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Old 07-24-2010, 01:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Fix One Thing, Another Comes Up.

So after suffering for more than a year on an intermittent problematic starter, I replaced it yesterday night.

After driving home from work today, my tach is wacky... It would rapidly jump (or twitch) at random times. However, if I give it gas to raise the RPM, it's fine and reads correctly. It twitches at idle and anywhere below about 2000RPM... weird.

I'm sure the engine is running fine. Doesn't stumble, skip a beat or anything. Runs like usual, otherwise I would've noticed. The tach twitches like the cylinders are firing in stupid orders, skipping firings, etc...

Probably hit a wire while changing my starter or something...
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I had the same problems when my alternator was not charging my battery. I charged up my battery and the problems were fixed. I'm putting in a new alternator in the morning to put these issues to permanent rest.
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that seems to be the problem with driving these 20yr old cars.... same thing happens to me, everytime i fix somthing another thing appears until i fix it all lol. atlest you can look at it this way, if your planning on keeping these cars long vs a brand new car. every payment you make on a new car they get more worn and degrade in value, every payment (parts, fixes) you do on your old corolla it gets better and heck who cares about the value of it.

on topic my tach did the same thing. it seems that somthing was using some of the voltage in my case.
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With cars this old it's all about preventative maintenance. Always on guard for smells or slight changes in how the car runs to check out what's going on.
A year with a bad starter can damage the alternator and/or battery :s.
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Where does the tach get its' signal from? Thought it would be from the distributor. I haven't looked into the problem yet, it's not major.

I mainly rely on my tach to see if the engine is running and running like the day before. Also by listening everytime I drive... Since the motor has 256000+.
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bgb = tach does not operate = tachometer faulty, wiring or ground. test - (a) connect a tune-up test tachometer, and start the engine. NOTICE. reversing the connection of the tachometer will damage the transistors and diodes inside. when removing or installing the tachometer, be careful not to drop or subject it to heavy shocks. (b). compare the tester and tachometer indications. if error is excessive, replace the tachometer.

DC 13.5v, 77deg F
standard indication. 700, 3,000, 5,000, 7,000. allowable range (coupe) 610-750, 2,850-3,150, 4,850-5,150, 6,790-7,210. (sedan) 580-720, 2,800-3,200, 4,800-5,200, 6,700-7,300.

information above is from the toyota bgb.

check your gauge fuse also. your tach is powered through the fuse which is the B+ and is also grounded, but it gets its signal from the igniter, -negative black wire, you can also tap into your diagnostic port IG- for the signal too. if you know how to read toyota pins its the number 2 pin in the plug to the igniter. this is regarding the 4afe. other than that your best bet is to try a different tach or try to wire it to test it to the IG- on your diagnostic port, which is the easyiest to get to.
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i havev't had this happen, but ive gone through 4 starters and in the last 5 years. Autozone and Advanced Auto aren't very good. The starter that I have now, I got from a junkyard and its doing better than the new ones I had gotten.
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the original ones have rebuild-able solenoid as well which is a bonus, as long as your Toyota parts people aren't retarded...
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i havev't had this happen, but ive gone through 4 starters and in the last 5 years. Autozone and Advanced Auto aren't very good. The starter that I have now, I got from a junkyard and its doing better than the new ones I had gotten.
I am pretty sure I am on the 2nd starter (1st was the original) for this car.. (1989 Corolla SR5) 355,000 miles..

it is an autozone starter.. (I think I put it in about 8 years ago..).
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I am pretty sure I am on the 2nd starter (1st was the original) for this car.. (1989 Corolla SR5) 355,000 miles..

it is an autozone starter.. (I think I put it in about 8 years ago..).
I didn't have the same luck. I'm also on my third clutch in the last 3 or 4 years. Next clutch I have to get I'm going straight to Toyota.
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Yeah I was having starter issues and at the time didn't have the cash for a new one. So just started it by pushing it. Came across a write up of how to repair the starter solenoid if you have the original Toyota starter. So I checked and it was (wasn't surprised since it looks like most things are original on the car). My Toyota parts guys are retarded so I ended up just buying the solenoid contact for an ae101 and modifying it to fit (it just had more material than ours so I just shaped it to fit). Still works a few years later. From my experience when you have an issue with a starter most times it's the solenoid and NOT the whole starter. Even with my 1990 Jetta, I convinced the re-builder to just change the solenoid and presto 10 year old starter worked like new, cost $100 vs the $400 for a new one.
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