ae92 3sgte or 4agte >? - Toyota Nation Forum : Toyota Car and Truck Forums

levin_GTZ · 09-07-2010, 10:09 AM

hey guys am new on toyota nation . i have my car for nearly 3 years now i have a ae92 Levin Gtz 4agze . the supercharge is getting kinda off boring now and my belt started to slip . so i decide to look at a turbo for my car .i been doing my research for at leat 6 monts if not more .. i manage to find a shop that will built me a custom made turbo to hit full boost 3500 - 4000rpm and go pick up 275whp ( it think it enough power to a ae92). but it been catching my attention the 3sgte . what you think i still wit the legendary 4ag or go wild 3sgte ?

Blof-fan · 09-07-2010, 01:57 PM

3rd gen 3S-GTE put out about 260hp at the cranck stock, so you would have plenty in the power department. And if you get bored again (Can't imagine it though) There are a lot of aftermarket parts for the 3S-GTE. I've seen those engines go up to 800bhp!

It sounds like you are ready to throw some serious money into these modifications if you were already planning a custom turbo setup with that much power.
So I'm not even going to bother you with the costs.

BUT...do realize that the 3S-GTE will take some more heavy modifications than what you've got planned now. It is not a straight bolt in job.
Think custom engine mounts, extensive wiring mods. You will have to find just the right parts to mate the engine/gearbox to the Corolla hubs etc, etc, etc...

But do keep in mind that the 3S-GTE is a fair bit heavier than the 4A-GZE, so the balance of the car will be completely different. So the mods to the car might not stop at the engine and gearbox alone. The suspension set-up and brakes might have to be upgraded aswell.

levin_GTZ · 09-07-2010, 09:34 PM

i like my thing done right , sometime you just got to pay for it but their is a limit . the wiring i have both of the wiring diagram for the engine .. but that was my concern the weight my car was amazing handling ! .i might fully built the 4agze and then we will see wats the result

ELUSIV Rolla · 09-07-2010, 10:12 PM

Stick with the 4A, unless you would like to join the 7A club as I plan to be doing very soon. I'm biased though, I LOVE revs.

***REN69*** · 09-09-2010, 06:59 PM

Dump the SC and go Turbo... you already have a GZE in the car, that's a good step right there.

I've seen turboed 4AGZEs pushing 300-500hp.

levin_GTZ · 09-10-2010, 03:00 PM

i been reading alot on Club4ag those guy are doing like 500 whp on a nearly stock engine . i was freaking out. my plan are to stay 4agze and put a turbo gt2560r ou the gt28rs ( will see) and hit like 320whp and she wat it feels like :P

levin_GTZ · 09-10-2010, 03:04 PM

heres a quick list wat i have in mind .

Head
-valve springs
-Valves (hks)
-Crower camshaft 270/270
- Hks cam gears
-Hks head gasket

Bottom end
-Arias 82 mm forged pistons
-Spool rods Forged i forgot the name of the bolts

Blof-fan · 09-13-2010, 01:30 PM

ARP bolt all through the entire block

levin_GTZ · 09-13-2010, 08:48 PM

thankk you . ARP that what am getting.

***REN69*** · 09-13-2010, 09:22 PM

Talk to 4doorgts, he built a 4AGZE turbo that kicked my ass the other day he gave me a ride, lol.

Here's a GTS with a turbo GZE swap I've been pondering about buying.

Flashmn · 09-14-2010, 05:05 AM

Wheres the turbo?

levin_GTZ · 09-14-2010, 02:20 PM

i agree with flashmn . where the turbo .. that the GZE with a supercharge he just put a front mount intercooler

***REN69*** · 09-14-2010, 07:30 PM

lolz that's my bad, I thought it was turbo'd but it's not.

levin_GTZ · 09-15-2010, 04:17 PM

loll it oki REN69 , hey what you guys think if i get 82 mm pistons from arias ? will it be worth it ?

Donald · 09-15-2010, 06:51 PM

I hear tell that just swapping in a bigger crank pulley on the GZE will boost it's performance quite a bit, and if you add cams it might get you up to the 200hp range. Don't hold me to these figures, but have you looked into going that route?