I have a 92 4 dr corolla DX that i would like to do N/A, All Motor. It is going to be my daily driver. I want to go with the 4age Blacktop 20 valve and the 6spd tranny, Im just not sure if its going to bolt right up or if its going to be a pain? Maybe the 4age motor and tranny from the ae92 GT-s. I also been reading on here about the 3sgte,but im not sure if thats for the GT-S. I would like someone to point me in the right direction as for swaps and good motor and tranny combos.
Down here we mainly do 1/4 MI runs, and 99% of the races are civics and mainly N/A, some with Nitro and a few turbo'd, so I would love to show them that toyota can surely hold it down. I am a toyota guy at heart.
aside of my 92, my girl owns a 95 corolla and I also drive an 01 Echo that im going to turbo but thats for another forum, check it out if you want... http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3837407
4AGE 20V Black or Silver will bolt right up. If you have a carb 4AF right now, you'll need fuel lines and the tank. Other than that, when you buy the motor, it should come with the wiring harness and ECU. Take that harness and the one in the car, send it to Dr. Tweak so he can return to you a plug-n-play harness. Pretty much, any motor that starts with 4A- bolts right in. As for the 6SPD trans, minor mod is needed just so you can mount the trans appropriately and be able to shift into reverse, I believe...
The 3SGTE, though it CAN fit, modification to the mounts are needed as it's not the same block. It's also a hefty motor.
20V has torque in the higher RPM, which is good for highways (or track). If you want 1/4mile straights, a 4AGZE which is a supercharged version of the 4AGE. Built for power, you can get eat Civics. The 4AGZE has torque in the low RPM range, so it'll launch.... assuming everything is well-tuned and all. Swap the supercharger for a turbo, or if you're lucky to find the HKS twincharger kit go Supercharged and Turbo'd.
lets say i get the blacktop, do cams, pistons, do the completely, (PnP, angle jobs, the whole 9) headers, exhaust. CAI, what hp gain would i be looking at?
4AGE 20V Black or Silver will bolt right up. If you have a carb 4AF right now, you'll need fuel lines and the tank. Other than that, when you buy the motor, it should come with the wiring harness and ECU. Take that harness and the one in the car, send it to Dr. Tweak so he can return to you a plug-n-play harness. Pretty much, any motor that starts with 4A- bolts right in. As for the 6SPD trans, minor mod is needed just so you can mount the trans appropriately and be able to shift into reverse, I believe...
The 3SGTE, though it CAN fit, modification to the mounts are needed as it's not the same block. It's also a hefty motor.
20V has torque in the higher RPM, which is good for highways (or track). If you want 1/4mile straights, a 4AGZE which is a supercharged version of the 4AGE. Built for power, you can get eat Civics. The 4AGZE has torque in the low RPM range, so it'll launch.... assuming everything is well-tuned and all. Swap the supercharger for a turbo, or if you're lucky to find the HKS twincharger kit go Supercharged and Turbo'd.
saw the corolla, looking nice. hows it move? and i want to keep it N/A rather than turbo, as i said. I am also working on my 01 Echo which is going to be turbo'd
the motors im looking at myself are, 2zzge for NA and 3sgte for turbo. sorry, but a 4age NA will never make a good drag engine. it could maybe get you in the low 14's which is plenty quick, but thats about its limit. your looking at an engine that past 140-150whp starts to shift alot of its power down low and moving it up high. boosted however a 4age might be different.
boosted id say 3sgte, 4agze are good platforms.
if your goal is to stay NA maybe beams 3sge, however it might never make power as easily as a 2zzge. said to say but that stupid technology called variable valve timing with lift seems to keep it streetable with high hp NA builds..... anyways your goals in a NA car is to have a crazy good power to weight ratio, so if i were you my goal would be to use the lightest engine/tranny combo with body panels or whatever i can to make the car lightest.
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the motors im looking at myself are, 2zzge for NA and 3sgte for turbo. sorry, but a 4age NA will never make a good drag engine. it could maybe get you in the low 14's which is plenty quick, but thats about its limit. your looking at an engine that past 140-150whp starts to shift alot of its power down low and moving it up high. boosted however a 4age might be different.
boosted id say 3sgte, 4agze are good platforms.
if your goal is to stay NA maybe beams 3sge, however it might never make power as easily as a 2zzge. said to say but that stupid technology called variable valve timing with lift seems to keep it streetable with high hp NA builds..... anyways your goals in a NA car is to have a crazy good power to weight ratio, so if i were you my goal would be to use the lightest engine/tranny combo with body panels or whatever i can to make the car lightest.
3sge? You mean the celica red beams motor? And as for the 2zzy. I read on here that it'll be up against the firewall and would have to do heavy modifying? Would the 6spd tranny fit in? Or would I have to order the ae111 6spd for it? You know, the black top 20 valve tranny?
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yes beams is the redtop 3sge with vvt-i. anyways i have looked at the 98+ 4 doors with the 1zzfe in them. they seem to have plenty of room still. seeing as that car 1st started out with a 4afe or 7afe. the biggest thing i can see needing to do to fit a 2zzge in is the front motor mount (cam timming side) and a custom header.
i wish i had a 2zzge, even a blown one so i really can confirm this. bolt it up to a c52 or c56.
btw what 1/4 times are you aiming for? this would make it very clear which engine to use. just remember that whatever engine you choose going NA is expensive. since NA engines have to rev to get thier power, having an engine loose lubercation at 10,000rpms is prob as bad or worse then having a boosted engine run lean.... gotta pay to play.
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91' mr2 with 3rd gen 3sge - SOLD
91' mr2 turbo - SOLD
96'paseo 40mpg DD!!!!!
90' corolla gts smallport engine FS... "levin front conversion" "current project" - BEAMS 3sge in the works
yes beams is the redtop 3sge with vvt-i. anyways i have looked at the 98+ 4 doors with the 1zzfe in them. they seem to have plenty of room still. seeing as that car 1st started out with a 4afe or 7afe. the biggest thing i can see needing to do to fit a 2zzge in is the front motor mount (cam timming side) and a custom header.
i wish i had a 2zzge, even a blown one so i really can confirm this. bolt it up to a c52 or c56.
btw what 1/4 times are you aiming for? this would make it very clear which engine to use. just remember that whatever engine you choose going NA is expensive. since NA engines have to rev to get thier power, having an engine loose lubercation at 10,000rpms is prob as bad or worse then having a boosted engine run lean.... gotta pay to play.
I'm looking to hit low 14s high 13s. It's gonna b a street car. Not for track. YouTube "providence street races" and that's basically what we running
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94 4 dr Nissan sentra,kybgr2,Megan springs,red pulsar gtir rims,sr20ve soon) current project
nothing NA FWD from toyota will get you fast down the quarter mile unless it's got double the cylinders OR forced induction... don't waste your time and do it right from the start.
Look up 4doors build thread, he built a 4AGZE turbo sedan built right up and I think he was pulling 14s and 13s with it... he finally realized he made a mistake and now he's doing it right.
well maybe a 7age? the larger displacement would make up for the loss in low end torque when you start to get a little crazyier with cams. most guys here that make 200whp run mid 13's. most the rsx guys here that make 160whp run mid 14's. however thats a car that weighs 500-600lbs more.
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"driving safe doesn't mean driving slow"
91' mr2 with 3rd gen 3sge - SOLD
91' mr2 turbo - SOLD
96'paseo 40mpg DD!!!!!
90' corolla gts smallport engine FS... "levin front conversion" "current project" - BEAMS 3sge in the works
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