Rice vs JDM

[Public Disturbance]

Ok guys lets post some pics of your riced out AE92s and your JDM builds... I like both styles but the more and more I look Im thinking the JDM fits the AE92 a little better...

[Blof-fan]

Euhm...As me being a Euro member here on the board with a AE92, I'm not all that formiliar with those frases. What's the difference?

JDM being cars that are converted with JDM parts? And rice with all kinds of tuning parts or something like that?

[Public Disturbance]

Originally Posted by Blof-fan

Euhm...As me being a Euro member here on the board with a AE92, I'm not all that formiliar with those frases. What's the difference?

JDM being cars that are converted with JDM parts? And rice with all kinds of tuning parts or something like that?

Ricers are like fast and furious cars flaunty body kits, huge rims, neon stuff like that

JDM builds are usually cleaner done mild lips, generally smaller rims and most of all yes converted with JDM parts

[Flashmn]

both are a useless fad.

[aj_gilbs]

ok so who was this? I know it was someone here....... hahaha
Ricer 'Rolla

[rdyzz]

i actually don't care what's what its your money. different people use their cars for different reason. picking on people who tune their cars the "rice" way is kinda like picking on the retarded kid in the classroom, everyone knows he's retarded except himself. actually i had a kid and his buddy one day riding in his mommy and daddy's chrysler 300 calling my NA 3sge powered mr2 a ricer at the gas station while i went to gas up, becuase i had a tuned carbon fiber gt spoiler which i put on just that night, because i was going racing at brainerd raceway the next day. so i then confronted the boy and asked him if the car he was driving was his. and he said no, i then asked if he does or even knows what sanctioned racing is and what a rear spoiler does to a car taking corners at high speeds. all he said was his grandfather raced and used nos, i then followed up by a i dont give a sh%&t what your grand papa does and asked him what can he do. the kid shut up and that was the end of that.

after doing more research i personally would actually use whatever parts may work better for roads and enviorments like the us, which is euro parts. alot of the jdm parts = hype. alot of their shocks are valved with to much compression and not enough rebound = good for sticky tires and silk smooth roads but shitty for crap US roads. not to mention most of their coilovers are made in taiwan. i'm not trying to bash them, however i do and will say most jdm products = pure overpriced hype. lol just picture if apc went to japan and sold a whole bunch of their stuff hyping it as usdm stuff......

this was the spoiler

[eage8]

Originally Posted by rdyzz

after doing more research i personally would actually use whatever parts may work better for roads and enviorments like the us, which is euro parts. alot of the jdm parts = hype. alot of their shocks are valved with to much compression and not enough rebound = good for sticky tires and silk smooth roads but shitty for crap US roads. not to mention most of their coilovers are made in taiwan. i'm not trying to bash them, however i do and will say most jdm products = pure overpriced hype. lol just picture if apc went to japan and sold a whole bunch of their stuff hyping it as usdm stuff......

+1

the more I get to know about real racing, the less inclined I am to go with "JDM" stuff. Some brands are decent, but most of it is just over priced... there is better stuff out there. US made stuff is actually really good as well as a lot of EDM stuff. The USDM stuff is most of the time the best just because they don't have to ship it all the way over an ocean... so they can sell it cheaper.

that being said, with a car like a corolla you take what you can get... you put on the best you can because really good stuff just isn't made. I have parts on my car from all over the world because it's the best. Building with just JDM parts is pretty narrow minded... If you want it just to look "cool" than go for it, but know that you car could have been better for cheaper...

the suspension of my rx-7 is pretty much all american, and uses delrin bushings along with spherical bearings. try getting stuff like that from japan for reasonably cheap...

[Blof-fan]

Whoei, then I'm set here in Europe!

Now that you mention it...There are a lot of renowned names from Europe.

KONI = Dutch
Bilstein = German
H&R = German
Brembo = Italian
Ferrodo = UK
etc
etc

[rickytan456]

JDM is really today's rice...99% of people cannot tell a difference between these two "different styles". In five or ten years people will look back and laugh at the jdm craze, hellaflush etc just like today we are laughing at the F&F style cars wondering "what were we all thinking?"





Most people are just going to roll their eyes and wonder why people are dumping money in to gutless economy cars. In the end it's your car so do what puts a smile on your face man.

[canadianae92]

it all comes down to some people having bad taste and some people good

in this case classifying your car in either shows bad taste

[kwint]

Ricers was a term coined for people who threw all kinds of accessories on their ride and not enough go fast parts. This was a fad created in the U.S. due to the fast and the furious movie. Rice is when they have race type accessories with no actual go fast parts. Like lots of gauges, chrome everywhere, etc..thing is tho is that the term "rice" does not apply to other countries. Countless people go on youtube bashing on cars they believe to be rice but yet came from the factor with the motor that those "anti-rice" kids swapped in. Not too mention all the other stuff on the Foreign market cars like clusters, seats, ashtrays, oem wheels, list goes on.

The Jdm and Euro bumpers for the ae92 sedan are far more visually appealing than the usa bumper. The Jdm bumper gives it a nice clean look, while the euro bumper gives it a little more aggression. Usa bumper on the other hand...idk just makes it look even more like a grocery getter than a formidable tuner car. Jdm truenos also have that rare long dash, also the jdm levin front looks really nice. Just having a jdm front bumper on your ae92 would set you apart from a lot of people who own tuners. Mainly for the fact that everyone drives hondas, but a jdm ae92 is just not something you see everyday.

As for jdm vs rice, jdm all day. Not only for overall looks, but durability and availability as well. Those fiberglass ill-fitting body kits don't do well on the street. For a show car, anything goes because its just that. A show car and nothing more. Its not gonna be driven to the track break records. (in most cases anyway) It was built to sit pretty. My two cents

[rdyzz]

Originally Posted by rickytan456

In five or ten years people will look back and laugh at the jdm craze, hellaflush etc just like today we are laughing at the F&F style cars wondering "what were we all thinking?" Most people are just going to roll their eyes and wonder why people are dumping money in to gutless economy cars. In the end it's your car so do what puts a smile on your face man.

in the racing world running wider wheels allows for a wider track, this benifits handling, the flushness comes from the side effect of running as wide a wheel as you can fit in your wheel well. its all a compromise however it changes the scrub radius some, also widening your track can create more tourqesteer depending on drivetrain layout.

i agree totally on jdm fanboys running crazy offsets with crazy amounts of negative camber just to fit the wheels on.

if you are talking about track racing or autocross i happen to think that these economy cars do way better then most muscle cars (all >90's anything muscle i've seen are slower than my moms camry the only exception is the corvette however that things built with all round pourpose). the problem i have with any crowd is attitude. 99% of autocrossers are open minded good willed people. i think i've meet more down to earth "ricers" than i have **** comparing muscle car guys. most the time these so called "ricers" just lack the fund or they themselves are misguided.

[Blof-fan]

Originally Posted by kwint

The Jdm and Euro bumpers for the ae92 sedan are far more visually appealing than the usa bumper. The Jdm bumper gives it a nice clean look, while the euro bumper gives it a little more aggression. Usa bumper on the other hand...idk just makes it look even more like a grocery getter than a formidable tuner car. Jdm truenos also have that rare long dash, also the jdm levin front looks really nice. Just having a jdm front bumper on your ae92 would set you apart from a lot of people who own tuners. Mainly for the fact that everyone drives hondas, but a jdm ae92 is just not something you see everyday.

Speaking about the bumpers...I myself am currently in the process of slapping on one of those rare JDM Trueno Zenki bumpers in favour of the USDM GT-S bumper.

Reason I did that? Of course, the looks play a role in that. But the main reason I dicided to drop the USDM bumper is because of that horrible '10MPH crash test' madness.
The US is the only market Toyota had to fit the big, nasty bumper support with that foamy stuff in front of it and than the bumper 'cover' which is made of a really weird kind of plastic.
It is way to flexible, paint will crack on it and I even saw photo's of cars with the bumper starting to sag a disform! To top that all of, I really don't like the way the bumper is hold on to the car.

The JDM and our Euro bumpers are made of sturdy, self supporting plastic which I like way better. The cleaner looks are a added bonus.

My point in all this. Some people might not even fit those bumpers just for the looks. But they have other advantages aswell

About those guage clusters you are talking about. Do you mean one of these?

[Public Disturbance]

wow im actually surprised this didnt turn into one of those screw rice threads I was jus trying to see what was out there as far as builds I like both styles I mean yea my Rolla is going to be more of a "rice" build but its going to have the go with it also my TC is clean tho with the go TRD supercharger, PnP on the head, cams, exhaust so like I said I like me both just trying to see whats out there

[Blof-fan]

We're pretty open minded