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Old 08-04-2011, 09:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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AE92 sedan brakes FROM HELL!!!!

Alright, so i was in my buddies 07 STI and we were on the highway and he stomped on the brakes at 75 and locked them up right then and there.(ABS fuse was not in the car) i wanna do that with my rolla. any thoughts on some badass calipers.
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I'm not even going to ask why....

Bad suspension will do it. Bald tires...

Or you can get bigger brakes. AE92 GTS have an inch bigger front rotor I believe. Or perhaps the AE101 brakes.
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I'm not even going to ask why....

Bad suspension will do it. Bald tires...

Or you can get bigger brakes. AE92 GTS have an inch bigger front rotor I believe. Or perhaps the AE101 brakes.
you didnt understand what i was saying lol, he has brembo brakes on it and rally tires, and i race FWD rally X. so i wanna be able to put the car into a slide when ever i want to. will the GTS brakes swap right over with the caliper.
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*sigh*

first off, if he was running rally tires on the street, they're pretty easy to lock up...

the GT-S and sedan have the same front brakes. the GT-S has rear discs which is nice, but you need a lot of stuff to swap it over... basically the entire rear subframe, latteral links, brakes, ebrake cables and proportioning valve.

the first thing I would do is just put some decent pads on your car and bleed your brakes. It'll make all the difference in the world, trust me. buy some Hawk HPSs, they're like $60

carbotech makes performance shoes for the rear drum brakes too...
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If you cant lock your brakes in a corolla you have some problems with the car.. or you're just not flooring the pedal down hard enough.

Besides, I dont really see whats so cool in doing shit like that... sounds pretty juvenile to me..

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Old 08-05-2011, 11:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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*sigh*

first off, if he was running rally tires on the street, they're pretty easy to lock up...

the GT-S and sedan have the same front brakes. the GT-S has rear discs which is nice, but you need a lot of stuff to swap it over... basically the entire rear subframe, latteral links, brakes, ebrake cables and proportioning valve.

the first thing I would do is just put some decent pads on your car and bleed your brakes. It'll make all the difference in the world, trust me. buy some Hawk HPSs, they're like $60

carbotech makes performance shoes for the rear drum brakes too...
The 90-91 GTS has bigger brakes than the sedan. Not by 1" though, just a wee bit. I did a swap thread on this, search for it, it's there.

And yea, I don't understand why you would want brakes so strong they lock up either. Locked brakes cause uncontrolled slides, if you want to slide, learn how to drift or something. My GTS (90) brakes held up fine on the track at Infineon.

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I agree with Flashmn. At those speeds the corolla should be able to do it. The better your tires the less chance of them locking up. Frankly what you are suggesting doing seems completely pointless but if you can't lock them up, especially with stock tires you have much bigger issues at hand. To give you an idea brakes locking up under even slightly hard braking, say a light changed suddenly and I had to stop, was the biggest reason I upgraded the rims and tires on my car. Also always found the brakes on the ae92 to be really decent for stock brakes. Found a lot of cars that are heavier and newer than these have smaller brakes on them.

Also stomping on the brakes to cause a slide I see issues with since it causes you to lose the ability to steer. The better way if you have crappy tires is to use the weight of the car to your advantage by throwing the weight of it so it slides as you want. Given that it's a fwd you also don't have the ability to add or take away power from the rear wheels to control the slide as easily to make up for any sort of mistakes. I always found doing it by throwing the weight of the car allows for you to correct with the steering and touches of throttle to pull the front of the car ever so slightly if you throw it to much.
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i can drive, just looking for stronger brakes, not locking them completely up. i guess ill try bleeding them and see how it does on the hair pins. thanks guys.

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Bleed them and clean and regrease the sliders. The sliders getting gummed up is another big reason for brakes not working as well or just sticking all together.
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Change the fluid. Old fluid is usually the cause of weak brakes.
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flushed it today and cleaned them all up and put wagner thermoquites on it. stops alot harder now.
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I may have missed something but if you rallycrossing a fwd car , wouldn't you want the rear locking and sliding intsead of the front ? Stronger stopping force in the front is one thing, but intentionally locking the front is a 1 way ticket to a tree stump.
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I dont think I'd want anything slip and sliding... throwing the rear around with the handbrake is just asking for slow times...
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in a front wheel drive rally car you push the gas and the brake at the same time to get the rears to lock up (the engine overpowers the front)

I wouldn't have gone with thermoquiets though... there are more high performance pads for close to the same money.
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Yeah left foot braking..
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