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Old 08-15-2011, 02:10 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi guys i couldn't find my last post (sorry U_U) but it's finally finished.... well 98%. i have successfully transplanted my 4age in to my 4 door sedan i'm not good at this so i'm just gonna make a list of things that are now on my sedan. Essentially this is just a geo prizim GSi i think (i wouldn't know i haven't been in one lol)

1. Big port 4age (SRI, OBX header)
2. Power windows and locks (converted from manual)
3. 5 speed Conversion.
4. Front brakes upgraded (1 inch bigger)
5. Stock GTS front and rear sway bars added
6. Rear Disk brake conversion
7. GTS front seats
8. Stock GTS strut tower bar
9. LE cluster w/tach

I can't think of anything else right now but if it comes to me i'll post them. This was my first swap and big project that i jumped into I only have a little wrenching exp and what not. But if you have any questions feel free to ask i will do my best to answer them to the best of my knowledge but please don't hold it against me because i'm still in the learning process and please leave comments good or bad idc i want feedback.

I will post pics tomorrow of the finished product but before i finish this i would like to give a special thanks to a few people

I want to thank David for helping me trouble shoot some problems and kimo for the extra muscles xD.

And a very special thanks to Kaitaiya. Some of you might know him some of you not but his influence has helped me finish this project and has mentor'd me through most of it, showed me trix i wouldn't never have thought of. THX KAITAIYA WITHOUT YOU I WOULDN'T NOT HAVE LEARNED AS MUCH AS I KNOW TODAY!!!!!!
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Old 08-15-2011, 10:24 AM   #2 (permalink)
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the prizm GSI's have different seats, different dash configuration, different gauges, 14" wheels, a lip spoiler on the back, front strut brace.....

and the gsi never came with a bigport..... they were available only 90/91 and had a smallport.
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Old 08-15-2011, 11:25 PM   #4 (permalink)
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what i really wanted to achieve is something that looks purely stock interior pics coming soon sorry my camera batt died
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Old 08-16-2011, 01:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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So does the GTS radiator fit except for that one top bracket? Any other fitment issues?
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Old 08-16-2011, 03:22 AM   #6 (permalink)
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yup only one bracket doesn't fit but you can see the hole is there. you could find a nut and bolt to tie it down i plan to do it in a month or so because i'll need to change my radiator anyways.

It's all pretty much drop in. both cars share the same chassis (kinda) so theres all the mounting points (example the rear sway bar brackets all had the holes there all i needed to do was pull off the plastic covers and drop the gas tank down a little to slide it over) what really was interesting was it seems your can use the entire front end of the GTS but you'd have to mod the fender's i didn't wanna test this theory because i had planned to sell the fenders and it wouldn't seem practical lol.

If you plan to swap over a 4age you will need the ae92 gts PS lines because the the PS bottle is mounted on the pass side fender wall while on the 4afe it's mounted to the actual pump. Another problem that you might run into is on the GTS rack/pinon two vacuum hoses run into it from the throttle body i think (I think this uses the air pressure from the engine to make steering a little easy while the vehicle is stationary) you can.

1. use the GTS rack
2. plug the hoses with caps

another part you'll need is the AC lines from the GTS if you plan to run AC. At first i thought because the engines were both 4a series they'd share same parts but i was wrong the AC compressor is totally different and also they have different numbers of grooves for the belt.

Another problem i had with my swap was theres a valve thingy that mounts to the driver side from the 4age in the gts the sensor plug is right next to it in the GTS but on the sedan it's located on the pass side right next to the wiper motor is so to fix this i just ran long vacuum hoses some where down the line i'll make a hard line so it looks more neat.

I wanted to give you guys a tip when you pick up a 16v 4age theres two water pipes that run under the intake manifold to the thermostat housing on top of the trans be sure to inspect those pipes good because the 4age i got those can rust out pretty bad mine looked like a swiss cheez block all holes and what nots.

heres a pic of the engine taken out of the GTS



As you can see the sub frame is still attached kataiya had given me the helpful tip to raise the car as high as i could. Then brace the engine with a engine hoist and unbolt the sub frame. After that slowly lower the sub frame with the engine attached on to a dolly to roll away. When doing this safety is a must. I had 2 sets of jack stands supporting the car. Make sure you've disconnected everything thats connected to the body clutch lines, vacuum hoses, wires, shift linkage. If you think you've disconnected everything check again, and again and again just to be safe. Also you can see i left the axles connected to the engine because the previous owner just had the clutch replaced and new clutch fluid to make sure the axles didn't fall out i tied them to the lower control arm tightly to prevent movement. When droping the engine if you can have someone watch to make sure nothing get's snagged or maybe something forgotten that would be a good idea or you can lower a few inches and run and check and repeat like i did .

When putting the engine back up just roll it back under and raise it when it's close you can use the long sub frame bolts to flush them up against the body.

This is probably the most time consuming part of any swap but when your finished it yields great satisfaction

WIRING



i can't really explain this part really well but if you have a question ask and i'll try to answer it ahahah
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Thanks for the tips. For the AC compressor, someone said that all they did was change the clutch/pulley to the 4AGE's compressor's clutch/pulley. I'm going to try that and if it works, I won't have to evacuate and recharge.
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it makes me sad after all of this hard work..... my motor develops a knock....... i'll be in the corner crying my heart out
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it happens..... find another..... or fix it if you trust the local machine shop(s)
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Nice job there buddy. I wanted to do this to my 95 before I sold it. Bought a 94 sentra to do a swap to it but have held back for the simple reason of, I'm a TOYOTA guy at heart, and I just don't feel right in my sentra. Although the sr20VE has more tq n power than most toyota swaps. That would be a good swap into one of these cars. That swap has 189hp 149tq. Wonder how hard that would be. Oh and it's obd2 which sux a bit. Good job though. Would definitely drop it a bit n at least a set of 89 twin cam rims polished. Still will have that stockish look to it. Or paseo rims. ;-)
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Nice job there buddy. I wanted to do this to my 95 before I sold it. Bought a 94 sentra to do a swap to it but have held back for the simple reason of, I'm a TOYOTA guy at heart, and I just don't feel right in my sentra. Although the sr20VE has more tq n power than most toyota swaps. That would be a good swap into one of these cars. That swap has 189hp 149tq. Wonder how hard that would be. Oh and it's obd2 which sux a bit. Good job though. Would definitely drop it a bit n at least a set of 89 twin cam rims polished. Still will have that stockish look to it. Or paseo rims. ;-)
I know what you mean i have a set of spare GTS rims but they are all messed up from the previous owner.. looks like he ran it in the curb it's kinda bent up lol. I'm just gonna put walmart wheel covers over it to... bling it out?
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I know what you mean i have a set of spare GTS rims but they are all messed up from the previous owner.. looks like he ran it in the curb it's kinda bent up lol. I'm just gonna put walmart wheel covers over it to... bling it out?
I don't know about in hawaii... but near me there is a wheel shop that repairs wheels. You might want to look into that.
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I don't know about in hawaii... but near me there is a wheel shop that repairs wheels. You might want to look into that.
sorry i've been MIA schools started and i haven't have much time for anything >.< but yea thx eage8 i did think about repairing the GTS alloys untill i came across these beauty's



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So i haven't started my car in quite some time i left it in the garage with a car cover over it........ >.> and i didn't notice it b4 but it must of been my luck that i notice the car developed a knock right after i filled the car with gas..... really a full tank of gas sitting there...... such a waste.. So i decided to start her up and hear her sing ^^. WELL WHAT DO YOU KNOW!!! NO KNOCK!!!!!!!!! LIKE WTF RIGHT?!!?!?!?!?!?...... So i decide to driver her around my block a few times and then......... the knock comes back......... *tear*
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So i haven't started my car in quite some time i left it in the garage with a car cover over it........ >.> and i didn't notice it b4 but it must of been my luck that i notice the car developed a knock right after i filled the car with gas..... really a full tank of gas sitting there...... such a waste.. So i decided to start her up and hear her sing ^^. WELL WHAT DO YOU KNOW!!! NO KNOCK!!!!!!!!! LIKE WTF RIGHT?!!?!?!?!?!?...... So i decide to driver her around my block a few times and then......... the knock comes back......... *tear*
Damn that sucks. Sorry to hear that... I had plans to buy a 4dr ae92 soon or an old school corolla. 80's. But getting married so have to put all plans for any car mods on pause til after the wedding. It sux in a very small way cause of the no modding. But very worth it. 8-D. If the $$$ let's and I can sneak in a little mod. Will definitely post

You figure out what's causing the knock.
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