With the dual carbs and the mechanical fuel pump and gas filter in view on the firewall that would be a 4AF. Looks like the 4AFE and also has 16 valves , but it is not fuel injected.
so dual carbs, a header, and a polished valve cover make it built?
no, Dual webers, Header, perfomance exhaust, rebuilt head, "more" agressive cam's, right tune, makes it built.
any 4af/e running a set up like this is built. it may not be completely blown n/a'd built but its works on its own. polished valve cover really shouldn't even been mentioned
dang thats pretty cool, how well does it rev? did you get cams to broaden up your torque band or is it more a highend camshaft profile? that 248hp 4afe is impressive, i wonder if the power on that is alot lower on the rpm band then the FA 4age. one of the most impressive dyno's i've seen was of a 5sfe. it had some web cams on it and some bolt on. its not alot of power it made but it was around 140ish whp and it was really impressive how 80% of the torque came on as early as 2,500 rpm.
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This Negative crap from people is really full of fail... just don't say anything is all your going to do is down the thread, seriously people.. it's not even anything bad and doesn't need a that useless drama... just be
I think its cool seeing people build those motors.
Common sense would tell you to go for a GE swap, but for some people it's just not in the cards.
Haters gonna Hate...
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no, Dual webers, Header, perfomance exhaust, rebuilt head, "more" agressive cam's, right tune, makes it built.
Can we tell any of this by looking at that picture?
what is the point of building the head like this when all the engine internals wont spin past 6.5K reliably?
Can we tell any of this by looking at that picture?
what is the point of building the head like this when all the engine internals wont spin past 6.5K reliably?
no the whole point is that someone took the time to do something unique any correct with the 4af.. a picture is a thousand words, and people take it how they want too...
and i believe the whole motor was done up to run a higher flow head like this, i just don't have the info to back every exact detail up..
can't you guys just appreciate the workmanship instead of it being dragged down.. sure its not the 4age, or any variants of it.. but its thinking out the box, and clean..
really...
don't need to talk it down.
if i had a 4af this would be my goal build..
what are you guys running that's really topping this? 20v, Beams, built redtop/bluetop, turbocharged... you'd want people to at least give credit to them, so why not do the same, its still representing toyota either way.
I don't think anyone is talking down to this motor because it's a 4AF or 4AFE; these engines were designed with economy and reliability in mind. That being said, they do make more torque than the 4AGE. Slapping dual carbs and a header on an engine doesn't mean it's "built," and it's not really safe to assume that the block is built just because the head is; people put ITB's on stock engines all the time thinking it will add power. It adds response, not power. Post some specs if you really want people to respect the engine, otherwise this is just the story of the Book of Mormon where we have to take your word for it.
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no the whole point is that someone took the time to do something unique any correct with the 4af.
Only correct thing to do with a 4A-F is to take it for recycling...
As for the sand rail, only thing 4A-FE about that engine is the head and block. Sure building is fun, but thats about it.
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what are you guys running that's really topping this?
Alfa Romeo Multiair 1.4 liter Turbocharged @170hp and 250nm/185ft-lb torque whilst the mileage is crazy at 52mpg
Also I did have a 4A-F(E) Turbo running at 190hp...
but what do I know, I only spent 10 years building a shitbox corolla, then I got fed up.
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no, Dual webers, Header, perfomance exhaust, rebuilt head, "more" agressive cam's, right tune, makes it built.
Looks to me like its an engine with webers slapped on with a header from an AE111, I'd shoot the guy who rebuilt the head and didnt even clean it, as for agressive cams and right tune, well, everyone lies about stuff you cant see..but seriously, thats nothing new, even I had webers and a header on my 4A-F prior to turbocharging, I even had bike carbs... Still, I wouldnt consider an engine built with stuff like that.
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Um, all motor 4afe.. yes please..
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