Hi everyone. Had an interesting experience installing shocks and springs I thought I would share. I bought shocks, struts, springs and upper mounts for a 93-97 corolla with the intention of installing them on my own car. When I got the first front strut out and the spring off I found that the struts and upper mounts on my car were the same as what I had bought. This raises the question of whether Toyota put newer style shocks and springs in some of the last AE92s, or a previous owner put the parts on. Doesn't really matter, I just can't help but be curious. Anyway, here's the car. I only did one shock and spring (driver side front) because my bump stops are dead. I had to order replacements so the job will have to wait until later in the week. Shocks are Tokico blues and springs are Apex. I got a 2" drop on the front corner with the Apex spring, which is more than I was expecting and not necessarily desirable, but I think it is going to look cool.
Last edited by upnsmoke92; 01-17-2012 at 05:00 PM.
I believe the AE101 strut mounting points are the same as the AE92, so you can swap the complete AE101 unit onto the AE92. The heights I am not sure about.
It becomes more difficult if you want to use AE101 springs on an AE92 strut. The circumference is smaller on the AE92 front strut lower spring perch, (not a lot, just enough to make you nervous) but I believe the rear is the same.
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'88 Corolla, AE92 SR-5, 7A-FE swap/GT-S suspension
'87 Corolla, AE82 FX-16, 4A-GZE swap (autocrosser)
'03 Tundra 4X4 Access Cab, (FX tow vehicle/Home Depot runner)
Modification: Changing something to what you thought it should have been from the start!
I believe the AE101 strut mounting points are the same as the AE92, so you can swap the complete AE101 unit onto the AE92.
This much is correct. I have verified that for myself. As far as the relative sizes between AE92 and AE101 coil perches, I could not say. The strange part about this job, is that my car already had AE101 shocks and springs. It seems strange to me that Toyota would not coincide a switch in shock/spring package with the switch in body style, but it also seems strange that a previous owner would switch just to put stock parts on. I suppose it doesn't matter anyway, though I do wonder if the car had some extra ride height on account of the stock AE101 springs.
I found out about he difference in the spring diameters when I got the wrong springs sent to me for a '92 AE92.
They AE101 front springs would just ride up on the lip of the AE92 strut. Only about 1/4", maybe less, but it was just enough to make it not fit.
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'88 Corolla, AE92 SR-5, 7A-FE swap/GT-S suspension
'87 Corolla, AE82 FX-16, 4A-GZE swap (autocrosser)
'03 Tundra 4X4 Access Cab, (FX tow vehicle/Home Depot runner)
Modification: Changing something to what you thought it should have been from the start!
i believe everything is the same except the valves inside the strut ae101 is heavier im actually running E110 struts and springs on my ae92
I think the weight on the 93-97s was close enough to 88-92s that shock valving shouldn't be too much different, though that is purely speculation and I could be completely wrong. Stiffer valving is desirable for my application anyway. I am surprised you were able to run E110 parts on yours. I have not heard of that being done. Did everything bolt up without modification? E110 was 98-02, right?
yes they are exact bolt ons on my ae92 i have ae102 front brakes with E110 struts (e110 struts because i got them for free and they were in better shape then my ae92s. also ae102 late gen lower control arms are the same as e110 theres alot of parts that can inter change you just gotta think outside of the box
yes they are exact bolt ons on my ae92 i have ae102 front brakes with E110 struts (e110 struts because i got them for free and they were in better shape then my ae92s. also ae102 late gen lower control arms are the same as e110 theres alot of parts that can inter change you just gotta think outside of the box
So are you saying that you are running AE102 lower control arms, which are the same you say as E110 arms, AE102 front brakes, and E110 struts? That is thinking outside the box. I am surprised that the LCA's interchange between all those different years. That definitely makes for some options, doesn't it? I will check out a set of lower arms and brakes for myself at some point. I already have plans for rear disks, but the car could use more brake all around. Thanks for volunteering all this information by the way, it could really change my plans, as well as those of others who happen to read across this. There is really not a lot information floating around out there about swapping suspension and brake parts on Corollas, at least not that I have been able to find.
no you cant you ae102/E110 control arms atleast i dont think so never tried. just ssaying that the kouki ae102 LCA and the E110 are same parts. Now as for brakes you can use Ae102/E110 but you'll need the entire knuckle including the lines. they are 1/4 in diameter larger so from left to right 1/2 in. (i think) and for rear brakes what do you plan to use the car for drum and disk are both great brake set ups but you just need to know the pros and cons.
no you cant you ae102/E110 control arms atleast i dont think so never tried. just ssaying that the kouki ae102 LCA and the E110 are same parts. Now as for brakes you can use Ae102/E110 but you'll need the entire knuckle including the lines. they are 1/4 in diameter larger so from left to right 1/2 in. (i think) and for rear brakes what do you plan to use the car for drum and disk are both great brake set ups but you just need to know the pros and cons.
Oh, I see what you are saying about the arms now. I'm remembering now, reading about some issues with the compatibility of the AE92 ball joints and the later gen knuckles. I think I even remember reading that someone claimed to have put later gen hubs/bearings in an AE92 knuckle to run the bigger brakes. I'll have to track down where I read that. As far as rear disks, I just want more power, and less fade if it works out that way. I have stiffer shocks and springs than stock, so I figure I can dial some more power into the back brakes, as they really are not adequate even for stock. I have stock brakes with EBC yellowstuff pads in the front right now. My car is just going to be an autocrosser/canyon carver. It won't likely see any full on road racing or anything as strenuous, at least not in the near future.
Here you go- Donald wrote this a couple years ago.
"Update:
I have assembled the AE101 front brake rotor, caliper, hub and brake shield onto an AE92 steering knuckle. Everything fits like it belongs there, no rubbing or binding.
So now the problem of the lower ball joint nut not being able to be saftied with the AE101 steering knuckle is moot.
I will be reinstalling it all onto the car, hopefully tomorrow or Friday.
FYI: The AE101 front wheel bearings are the same as the AE92."
Someone also has a good writeup on twincam.org (comes up first when you google AE92 Corolla brake swap) about front and rear brakes. So much for my excuse to do front arm bushings and ball joints.
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