ae86 AE92 suspension swap parts?

[Gerkn]

I drive a 91 SR5 and I'm swapping parts from a 89 GTS parts car over (suspension, engine/trans, rear brakes, etc). I've started looking around for a manual rack and non-tilt column. I'm also getting custom military-grade heim joints for rear sway links and outer tie rods but I'm curious about some possible parts swapping from an AE86. As any Corolla enthusiast knows, AE86 parts are WAAAYYY easier to come by so I was wondering if anyone knows of any suspension parts that swap over to AE92 coupes? Specifically inner tie rods, struts, steering racks/columns, control arms, etc? Thanks!
I want to get some AE86 performance rated inner tie rods to go with my whole beefy suspension setup because I can't seem to get any for my AE92 but I don't want to waste the money if they have different threads or the length is wrong or something...
I looked at the NAPA website and compared part number "NCP 2695096" from a AE92 and a "NCP 2695086" from AE86 and the threads are the same but the overall length is .1" shorter and the socket length is .26" longer on AE86.
How much will that matter since tie rods are adjustable anyway?

[SuperRA]

They're different. I'm willing to bet there isn't any part shared between the two suspensions (aside from the possibility of some bolts.) I have no idea about the steering links as I don't know what the ae86s looks like.

[rdyzz]

Originally Posted by Gerkn

I drive a 91 SR5 and I'm swapping parts from a 89 GTS parts car over (suspension, engine/trans, rear brakes, etc). I've started looking around for a manual rack and non-tilt column. I'm also getting custom military-grade heim joints for rear sway links and outer tie rods but I'm curious about some possible parts swapping from an AE86. As any Corolla enthusiast knows, AE86 parts are WAAAYYY easier to come by so I was wondering if anyone knows of any suspension parts that swap over to AE92 coupes? Specifically inner tie rods, struts, steering racks/columns, control arms, etc? Thanks!
I want to get some AE86 performance rated inner tie rods to go with my whole beefy suspension setup because I can't seem to get any for my AE92 but I don't want to waste the money if they have different threads or the length is wrong or something...
I looked at the NAPA website and compared part number "NCP 2695096" from a AE92 and a "NCP 2695086" from AE86 and the threads are the same but the overall length is .1" shorter and the socket length is .26" longer on AE86.
How much will that matter since tie rods are adjustable anyway?

actually ae86 guys use our cartidges in their housings for short stroke conversions and we both have the same engines 4age in GTS trim, and ae86 struts are far harder to come by then ours, they have the whole bearing carrier shaft built onto theirs. thats one of the reasons decent coilovers on ae86s arent cheap. we can use ae82 gts and any ae1xx struts up front if we'd like. if your concern is your inner tie rods and outter tie rods wearing i woulnt be so worried. just use oem toyota replacement inner tie rods and outter tie rods. not to be harsh but THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AE86 PERFFORMANCE RATED....

also myself and many others have abused our cars enough with the oem inner and outter tie rods to know they hold up. however at the end of the day they are a wear and tear replaceable item. hell even these ae86 performance rated tie rods you mention will wear and need replacement. i dont mean to sound like an ass, im just telling you realistically. these two cars are old cars, maintance parts for them will soon be harder and herder to find, especially for the ae86's since their a one of model (actually they already are), atlest the ae92 is both coupe and sedan. the sedan we know sold in countless numbers.

BTW ae92 performance parts is not that hard to come by if you know where your looking. most the ae92 guys know we have a good amount of parts as options, but it comes down to how far you want to go, at the end of the day you gotta pay to play, so that might be why you dont see so many people sporting to much things on their ae92, but a assure you the 86 guys dont have it that much easyier. our two suspension systems are simply very different. i know because i've help friends with their ae86's, installed things and what not for them to know how different the two suspension designs really are. btw what are your tuning goals, that might actually help us help give you advice on how to setup and what parts to get.

[Gerkn]

Hay, thanks for the reply! I might just get some inners from the dealer when I get my rack than. I work at a popular muffler and brake repair chain in a state with some of the worst repaired roads in the country, and inner tie rods are some of the most common parts to fail on vehicles around here. I just want something I don't have to worry about, but I guess I still have OEM inners and they aren't bad yet so I might as well use the same thing when I get my manual rack.
Another cool part about using "performance" inners too is the extra turning radius and the extra-high strength materials, but for my application I don't necessarily "need" that. I've had experiences with modifying cars the wrong way, my AE92 is my baby and I want to do the best stuff I can afford and do it right.
I am for sure going to get heim joints for my outer tie rods and sway links though, it just make sense because I can get them custom OEM fit for pretty cheap around here.
As a side note: I do believe that the Megan racing inner tie rods would work, but I can't find out the overall length (not listed on their website) and the rack end threads might stick out of the rack a little... maybe put a .25" spacer in there and should be good...

[rdyzz]

Originally Posted by Gerkn

Hay, thanks for the reply! I might just get some inners from the dealer when I get my rack than. I work at a popular muffler and brake repair chain in a state with some of the worst repaired roads in the country, and inner tie rods are some of the most common parts to fail on vehicles around here. I just want something I don't have to worry about, but I guess I still have OEM inners and they aren't bad yet so I might as well use the same thing when I get my manual rack.
Another cool part about using "performance" inners too is the extra turning radius and the extra-high strength materials, but for my application I don't necessarily "need" that. I've had experiences with modifying cars the wrong way, my AE92 is my baby and I want to do the best stuff I can afford and do it right.
I am for sure going to get heim joints for my outer tie rods and sway links though, it just make sense because I can get them custom OEM fit for pretty cheap around here.
As a side note: I do believe that the Megan racing inner tie rods would work, but I can't find out the overall length (not listed on their website) and the rack end threads might stick out of the rack a little... maybe put a .25" spacer in there and should be good...

the tie rods will not add to the turning radius, what your gonna end up doing is adding or taking away toe. why the tie rods wont is because the are connected for toe adjustment purpose only, unlike the ae86 where they use a seperate steering knuckle, and changing that will result in a different turning radius. to do that on the ae92, you will have to shorten the knuckle which the outter tie rod bolts to. in this case as most standard fwd is casted on as part of the hub knuckle assembly. any why would you want more turning radius in a FWD car anyways? if in a FWD car your turning lock to lock all this is telling me is your gonna understeer massively. any car properly setup for grip driving will not have the wheels turned to much, if it is then your turning to much and losing to much grip cause your over accelerating and not makeing use of what bit of traction you have.

if you use sepherical bearings for the rod ends make sure your control arm is within the same traveling geometry, or you might end up with some odd combination of bump steer. btw im also sure sepherical type bearings need you to keep more of an eye on them, cause they can develop stress cracks and depending on how hard they load when they are out of their movement specs, can develop chips and oblong the bearing. im not trying to stray you away, infact i use these types of bearing for my outter tie rods.

[upnsmoke92]

Originally Posted by rdyzz

BTW ae92 performance parts is not that hard to come by if you know where your looking. most the ae92 guys know we have a good amount of parts as options, but it comes down to how far you want to go, at the end of the day you gotta pay to play, so that might be why you dont see so many people sporting to much things on their ae92, but a assure you the 86 guys dont have it that much easier.

Any idea where I might find a urethane arm bushing set? I have looked around, but had no luck.

[Gerkn]

Didn't know that about the turning radius, thanks for the info. I haven't really done any research on it, and yea there is no reason I would need it in a FWD. As for bushings, I'm pretty sure Whiteline performance (http://www.whiteline.com.au/) makes every bushing for our cars but I'm not sure of a good place to order from. I know andysautosport.com has everything available but I've heard that website is really shady and takes a LONG time to ship.
Energy Suspension Parts seems to be a legit seller. They have a good "google shopping rating".
http://www.energysuspensionparts.com...a+Corolla+1989

[rdyzz]

Originally Posted by upnsmoke92

Any idea where I might find a urethane arm bushing set? I have looked around, but had no luck.

your not looking hard enough, the right superpro poly bushings for ae92 gts

incase the link doesnt work heres the pn for the ae92 coupe gts

SPF0823K SuperPro SPF0823K GMH, Toyota Tr/Arm Bushing $64.40
1 SPF1039K SuperPro SPF1039K Toyota Seca AE93 R/con arm out $64.40
1 SPF1040K SuperPro SPF1040K Toyota Seca AR93 Rear con/arm $60.20
1 SPF0996K SuperPro SPF0996K Toyota Corolla AE 95 Front Low $30.10
1 SPF1370AK SuperPro SPF1370AK Toyota Corolla AE 90,92,93,95 $44.10
1 01freight 0002 Freight $22.00

i picked mine up from r sport international (503)-408-6573 they had the best price out of all others ive looked, and shipping was fast. it was 2 yrs ago to so idk if anythings changed.