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Old 11-12-2007, 05:59 PM   #46 (permalink)
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Maybe some of you guys are using larger diameter wheels/tires? The larger the wheel/Tire the more horsepower/Torque it takes to accelerate. If you want higher speeds go with larger diameter.. if you want faster acceleration drop the wheel size...

this is a generel rule for cars with low to mid horsepower.... beyond that...

Of course if you have an outrageous amount of Horspower, than it really won't matter much on the street, as that many horses will pull like hell with any wheel size.. and then you want large wheels/tires for grip and bite..



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Old 11-13-2007, 01:05 AM   #47 (permalink)
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Theres no heart shape on a 4A-FE piston...

I think you should study a bit more, some of the claims that the engine has less power but more acceleration doesnt exactly match.

makes potential sense to me. the one could have greater horsepower, but it doesn't reach that power until it revs to a higher point. the other has less overall power, but it has more power available in the lower end of the powerband than the first.
I'm not sure if it's actually true with the said engines, but I see the point they were trying to make
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Old 11-13-2007, 01:49 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I dunno.. my engine doesnt accelerate on its own, it stays still.
4A-GE would rev faster than a 4A-FE. All things equal, 4A-FE doesnt suck, but as stock its got limitations.
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Old 11-13-2007, 12:56 PM   #49 (permalink)
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The 4afe piston is round like any other, what I meant is that the top of the pistons there is an heart like shape cavity.
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:39 PM   #50 (permalink)
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Actually its nothing like a heart....
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Old 11-13-2007, 03:46 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Is it like a liver?
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har har, no.. its a symmetrical shape. basically have cutouts for valves.
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Old 11-13-2007, 08:10 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Ok lets just end this.



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Old 11-13-2007, 08:12 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Theres no heart shape on a 4A-FE piston...

I think you should study a bit more, some of the claims that the engine has less power but more acceleration doesnt exactly match.
Actually I think there is some validity to the statement of less horsepower having the feel of more accelleration.
Very often peak HP gain is achieved at a sacrifice of low end torque.
A fat low end to mid range torque curve makes a daily driver feel much more responsive (feel faster at low speeds) than a car with a high HP and low torque.
You can experience this very easily by swapping from a 4-1 headder to a 4-2-1 on most engines, or going from a large bore T/B to a smaller bore.

Hence the advent of TSIV, VTEC and VVTI, to try and capture both bottom end torque and high end HP.
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Old 11-14-2007, 04:45 AM   #55 (permalink)
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Ok lets just end this.
Older gen pistons are even different from that...
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Actually yes and no...
Your overall power will be lower, vtec etc just make drivability better at low RPM, versus having one big camshaft and shitty low end.
Anyways a 4A-F/FE wont rev faster than a 4A-GE and no your car wont accelerate faster with a 4A-FE...
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Hey, Flashman you should check out the video I told you guys about. Maybe theres something Im not seeing. Also look for XRS vs MR2 with 4AGE.
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Lol, I really dont need a video to show me 4A-FE internals as I've disassembled quite alot of them.
And as for XRS vs 4A-GE mr2, what about it? saw the vid, the Mr2 driver doesnt know how to drive. Not to mention a 4A-GE 20V puts out 130hp and doesnt really upstand with torque vs the 2ZZ-GE which is alot superior.

Again theres quite a difference between the 1st gen and 2nd gen 4A-FE's..

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definately a cold air intake, cheap and easy to install, you'll notice more power right away. look on ebay, they have tons of choices but mostly just for vvti and corolla s, but they have others too
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