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On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 19:13:40 +0000, MO full name wrote:
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> On Sat, 14 Oct 2006 13:55:01 -0500, "Ray O"
> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
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>>"MO full name" <nospam@hole.org> wrote in message
>>news:pf40j296ua5ekvp1926kb1okfeu64o0lhm@4ax.com...[color=darkred]
>>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 15:51:08 -0500, "Ray O"
>>> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
>>>
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>>>>"MO full name" <nospam@hole.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:alsvi2lsksbki78bdi8i19p6904m1o62uo@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006 13:42:07 -0500, "Ray O"
>>>>> <rokigawaATtristarassociatesDOTcom> wrote:
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>>>>>>"MO full name" <nospam@hole.org> wrote in message
>>>>>>news:j5lvi2t6flhu8nhdrfv66m2q6ljje2f1du@4ax.com...
>>>>>>> Are the Interior Trim Panel removal and installation roughly the same
>>>>>>> in the 06 Sienna as the 02 Sienna?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Yes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a 02 Haynes manual.
>>>>>>> I removed and replaced the panel from the rear door and was encouraged
>>>>>>> how easy it was with the nifty white snap out plastic buttons. How
>>>>>>> about the ceiling <grin>.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The headliner is a LOT more work. Generally, all 8 of the side pillars
>>>>>>trim
>>>>>>has to come off, which would be the A, B, C, and D left and right pillar
>>>>>>trim, plus the windshield and rear hatch trim. Before you tacke that,
>>>>>>you
>>>>>>have to remove the assist grips and courtesy/dome lights and de-activate
>>>>>>the
>>>>>>side air bags.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know that one is to be cautious with the air bags and disconnect the
>>>>>>> battery first.
>>>>>>> Are those buttons readily replaceable from any auto supply store? T.
>>>>>>> would likely want $5+ for each.
>>>>>>> MO
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I doubt if you can get the exact fit for those buttons. The cost from a
>>>>>>dealer is probably closer to $1.50 each.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Ray,
>>>>> As a follow up - does disconnecting the battery cause the loss of all
>>>>> codes and settings - from engine to radio?
>>>>
>>>>Yes, however, note that disconnecting the battery does not immediately
>>>>de-energize the supplemental restraint system, commonly referred to as air
>>>>bags. The SRS is designed this way because the vehicle battery is often
>>>>damaged in a collission so it needs another source of power to ignite the
>>>>squibs.
>>>>
>>>>> How difficult or simple is it to restore this?
>>>>>
>>>>> MO
>>>>
>>>>The radio is simple to restore - just write down the pre-set radio
>>>>stations
>>>>before you disconnect the battery. If you have programmed a theft
>>>>deterrent
>>>>code in the radio, you should make sure you know it BEFORE you disconnect
>>>>the battery or lose power, otherwise, you will have to pay a dealer for
>>>>the
>>>>universal unlock code
>>>
>>> Have nothing except std keys - with the push button to unlock.[/color]
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>>The keyless entry may need re-programming.
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>>>
>>>>
>>>>It is not necessary to do anything special to the powertrain electronic
>>>>control module (ECM) if power is lost.
>>>>
>>>>There are other vehicle systems that may or may not be affected by
>>>>disconnecting the battery - you should check your service manual, TSBs, or
>>>>your local Toyota service department if the following are affected -
>>>>vehicle
>>>>theft deterrent system, keyless entry system, immobilizer system,
>>>>automatic
>>>>headlights/daytime running lights, and Homelink system.
>>>
>>> I'm using whatever factory settings it came with. So it would NOT
>>> default to those?[/color]
>>
>>Some systems need to be re-initialized after power loss, which is done by
>>the dealership as part of the pre-delivery service.[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Just curious... Why do you want to drop the headliner? Dropping
>>>>headliners
>>>>is a huge pain, even without side curtain air bags. Professional
>>>>technicians cringe at the thought of having to drop headliners, and Toyota
>>>>developed a special technique to install roof racks without having to drop
>>>>the headliners. In 35 years of messing with cars I have managed to avoid
>>>>the need to drop the headliner. Unless you prefer self-inflicted brain
>>>>damage and you would like to introduce tears, stains, sags, rattles, and
>>>>creaks into your headliner, I recommend finding another way to accomplish
>>>>whatever it is you want to accomplish.
>>>
>>> It is a special antenna so I can communicate with people in outer
>>> space <G>. It is a great benefit if the ant. is located symmetrically
>>> on the vehicle or else I need to boost power significantly.
>>>
>>> If it were simple then a quick look see would be good for future
>>> reference - since there is no doubt both plumbing for the rear ac and
>>> el circuits galore.[/color]
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>>If you want to install a roof-mounted antenna, my advice would be to drill
>>from above with a drill-stop collar and then snake the cable through the
>>headliner without dropping the entire headliner.[/color]
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> Sounds like the best route to go - IF I go that route.
>
> Clearly one should avoid changing or disconnecting the battery at just
> about all cost. If an owner puts in a new battery will the car even
> start or drive to the nearest dealer to be reprogrammed?
>
> Typical cost for this - one hr?
>
> Can one remove panels carefully without removing the battery first?[/color]


Ray alluded that you want to perhaps install a Satellite antenna (I was
only kidding with my Moonbat comment!)

Is this for XM/Sirius, or do you have a Satellite dish for an on-board
video system?

Instead of going through all the trouble of REMOVING everything, what size
wire are you trying to run? If it is an XM antenna then the wire is very
thin; snaking it along the trim panels on the inside of the car, and then
running it out one of the windows is the easiest way. Or, go out the back
hatch or the side door and onto the roof.

I personally don't like drilling panels; in an extreme case the panel can
rip in case of a collision.

If you're running a Coax, a similar method can be taken, run the wire just
inside the trim panels (there is usually PLENTY of room!) and then snake
it through the headliner to the exit point at the entertainment system.
This is certainly MUCH easier that removing the headliner!

If you nee to drill a hole, remove the trim panels in the rear and try to
locate a point to drill where you don't have to yank out the HL.

As long as you are careful, you shouldn't have to disconnect the battery;
at the most pulling a couple fuses should be sufficient.

Just be careful, if you don't disconnect the battery, to not drill through
any wiring! It will all be bundled anyway, just avoid the bundles!

If you could provide a little more info, we may be able to offer more
specific help!

Also, if you have a roof rack, and the wiring is thin enough, you may be
able to route through there. Use shrink tubing or electrical tape for
extra insulation!