I've been buried in the Tundra forum too long. But where did this sweet-ass Corolla S and XRS come from? I'm a Toyota guy and the wife is a Honda girl, so naturally we were looking to upgrade her beater 94' Civic with and 08 or 09 Civic. I just got this Email (spam I thought) from Toyota showing off the new Corolla, and maybe I'm gaga right now........but is this Corolla this good lookin' in real life? I told the wife to come here and look at these, and she even said "We got to drive one of them"! That's a statement, she only buys Honda's. Should've known , My first Toyota....an 83 SR5 Corolla. Going to the Car Show this weekend, Man I hope that Corolla is all that it looks like in the website. I guess I'll be over here now some and not just on the Tundra Forum. F#*k....I'll never get any sleep tonite!
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09 Corolla XRS 5spd M (White)
I saw and drove a 5 speed 2AZ XRS parked at the local dealership. They have a whole bunch of them
My impressions were they look quite aggressive with nice body lines. Overall, very nicely designed. Although, the wheel gaps were enormous so I thought it needed to be dropped.
Driving dynamics wise, it is very smooth and refined, has very nice peppy torque for around town and handles nicely for its weight, but it ran out of steam at right about 5000 rpm. It definitely had more sound deadening as compared to my XRS since it was extremely quiet. It felt more like slightly smaller Camry sedan most likely due to the heavy curb weight. All in all, it felt like a very good altenative to the Mazda 3 or Lancer GTS etc.
When it comes to balance between involvement and excitement with every day practicality of a small compact car, it is of no comparison with the old screamer 2ZZ-GE XRS or the new Civic SI (considering it costs the same as a Civic SI).
__________________ SSM 05 Corolla XRS 6 Spd VVTL-i 2ZZ-GE /04 Corolla S 1ZZ-FE (sold)
I'm actually pretty impressed with how light the 10th Generation is for all the extra features and how solid the car is. The new XRS is only 200lbs heavier than the 9th Gen XRS.
For engine pleasure and enjoyment a higher revving engine is definitely nicer. I love my AE86, it's so fun to drive compared to my new XRS, but around town the 2AZ's torque is great.
You guys can say that again! I used to drive the 2005 Corolla and my 2009 Corolla is leaps ahead of it in terms of everything! It's an awesome car! Especially if you have nice 18" rims to match it!
I'm actually pretty impressed with how light the 10th Generation is for all the extra features and how solid the car is. The new XRS is only 200lbs heavier than the 9th Gen XRS. Jeff
No it felt A LOT heavier. Unsprung weight difference was way too obvious while taking turns at anything faster than 30 - 35 KM/H.
Reason is it is actually 300 pounds. 2ZZ-GE XRS weighed 2651 lbs while the new 2AZ-FE XRS weighs 2890 lbs for 5 speed manual (2970 lbs for the the automatic). On the brighter side, despite having 4 doors, it is 30 lbs lighter than the Scion TC.
__________________ SSM 05 Corolla XRS 6 Spd VVTL-i 2ZZ-GE /04 Corolla S 1ZZ-FE (sold)
I bought an XRS today for $27,500CDN; definitely noticed a difference in performance coming from an 07 Matrix.
However, I still don't like the drive-by-wire throttle system...but other features outweigh this concern.
What is this drive-by-wire throttle system? I think I've heard more than one person complain about it. I want to know what it is and see if it bothers me.
What is this drive-by-wire throttle system? I think I've heard more than one person complain about it. I want to know what it is and see if it bothers me.
The throttle is not physically linked to a throttle body. The throttle is linked to computer sensors, which monitor the throttle positioning and the computer opens the throttle accordingly.
Most of the cars these days have drive-by-wire throttle. Even the 9th generation 1ZZ-FE CE, LE and S Corollas had drive-by-wire from 2005 - 2008. Ofcourse, the new highlight in the 10th generation is the electronic steering, which also has a similar concept linked to the steering wheel.
__________________ SSM 05 Corolla XRS 6 Spd VVTL-i 2ZZ-GE /04 Corolla S 1ZZ-FE (sold)
I see. And so what's the difference that you guys notice? I don't notice a think from my old cars.
From what I noticed in drive by wire cars I drove (including a rental 2007 Corolla CE) is that in city driving and bumper to bumper traffic, Toyota's drive-by-wire does an adequate job, but when driving at highways speeds, passing someone or changing throttle inputs rapidly, there is a very noticeable lag in the throttle response. It pauses for a second and then responds abruptly. The electric steering on the other hand exhibits a lifeless and disconnected feel from the road. It does not transfer any information and feedback about the tire traction or the road.
Now, high-end sports cars use drive-by-wire such as Porsche and BMW etc., but those systems are highly evolved and expensive so the sensor polling frequency and computational power of computers in those cars is exceptionally fast. That is why those cars have exceptional throttle response even with drive-by-wire throttle.
__________________ SSM 05 Corolla XRS 6 Spd VVTL-i 2ZZ-GE /04 Corolla S 1ZZ-FE (sold)
Ah. I see. I see. I then assume that the reason they use drive-by-wire technology nowadays is because it's cheaper and more efficient and probably more earth friendly?
And since the Corolla's a lower-end car, then the drive-by-wire tech that it's using is not as advanced as the higher end cars like BMW.
I see. Now that I understand, you guys are right. The steering IS somewhat too soft and smooth. Yes, I can't feel the road that much compared to older cars. But I thought that was a good thing since everything is smoother. Well, what do I know.
Ah. I see. I see. I then assume that the reason they use drive-by-wire technology nowadays is because it's cheaper and more efficient and probably more earth friendly?
It saves weight (replace mechanical bits with a computer chip) and of course save a bit of fuel
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Originally Posted by silver04rollas
Most of the cars these days have drive-by-wire throttle. Even the 9th generation 1ZZ-FE CE, LE and S Corollas had drive-by-wire from 2005 - 2008. Ofcourse, the new highlight in the 10th generation is the electronic steering, which also has a similar concept linked to the steering wheel.
oooh.. careful. EPS is NOT steer-by-wire. EPS is electronic power steering. The traditional hydraulically-operated rack & pinion is replaced with an electric motor. The benefit is that it's active only when you need it (either when you're turning) unlike hydraulic ones where it's always assisting even when you're driving in a straight line. This saves a bit of fuel.
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