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Old 05-26-2008, 10:38 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2009 Corolla XRS Handling Review

Got up real early today, and didn't feel like going back to sleep. So I took my XRS out for a morning ride near a large wilderness preserve at the edge of town.

Since the morning roads were nearly empty, I took the chance at every red light to take off as fast as possible (I drive a stick, BTW). As I got further away from the local roads the speed limit climbed, so I tried a few 0-60 runs too, though I didn't time them. To test the steering and the suspension, I tried swerving as I drove, did some mid to high speed turns and at one point even made a sharp U-turn at around 40 MPH. It was very pleasant driving in the early hours, and the relaxed atmosphere allowed me to get my first good feel of the car since I got it over a month ago.

First of all, the steering. There have been a lot of complaints about the EPS, but although it's a bit annoying when cruising (requires somewhat more effort to keep the car going straight) it responds perfectly well to sudden swerves and turns. There isn't enough feedback, I agree, but I actually noticed that after someone mentioned it. It didn't bother me the slightest bit back when I was test driving. In this sense, I will say that the steering is simply different, takes some getting used to, but has no up or downsides overall.

Secondly, the acceleration is good, but not quite there. Don't get me wrong, in the first 3 gears the car is hideous - I accidently made the wheels screech more than once. If you throttle it enough you can really feel the torque jerking you forward. The problem is that somewhere around 3rd the acceleration begins to flatten out. The speed simply rises at a fixed rate regardless of how hard you step on the pedal. At that point any sportiness is lost instantly - it reminds me of a Camry more than anything else.

Third, speed. This is probably the strongest point of this car. Although I didn't take it up to that today, my current top is 100 mph with one passenger. I'm pleased to say that the car runs fine at that speed. It floats no more than a medium sized sedan would, and it's relatively quiet for a car of it's size. My friend actually turned off the stereo for a moment to listen to the wind and engine noise, because the JBL was covering them up too well. Furthermore, the reason I didn't go any higher was because of traffic, and of course, fear of cops. Given the time and place I feel that this car can probably go near it's max speed and still ride pretty comfortably.

Finally, the suspension. Now this is bad. The car is either too tall, has bad springs, or maybe both. Anyway, there is noticeable body roll when making high speed turns, which is uncomfortable to say the least. It's not enough to make the car flip over, but I imagine that if I had a passenger or two, they wouldn't appreciate it very much. I also heard some tire screeching during the sharp U-turn, though I'm not sure whether that has to do with the tires or the suspension.

To wrap it up, I must say that, unfortunately, I feel that a lot of the reviews out there are pretty accurate. The new XRS is no performance car, it's just a Corolla with a little more power. I'm putting it that way because a few years ago it was. I'm not exactly complaining, since the car fits my needs perfectly - a compact, reliable grocery shopper with enough power to comfortably carry 4 adults at 70 mph. I'm just saying that Toyota really could have made it better. Then again, it is a first-year model, after all - it hasn't been polished yet. I guess that's the price one has to pay for being so eager for a new toy .
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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you are right on the money. However, for myself this car is plenty fun to drive compared to my old mazda 323 1990....

But... as you were saying about the online reviews, they are correct to a degree... they do however make many false statements about the XRS being in the same class as the '08 MazdaSpeed 3. They do not cost the same nor are the engines anywhere the same. $31,000 BASE for the Speed3 and it has 265 hp via a Turbocharged engine. The online reviewers just need to compare the XRS with similar cars like the '08 Civic LX, Mazda 3 Sport, or Saturn Astra.

Sorry about the rant, but online reviewers keep saying the same crap comparing an XRS to higher performance cars which is just wrong. it is what it is, a performance car compared to the other corolla trims....
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maybe if the xrs has the independant rear suspension handling will be much better and maybe lesser body roll. i did notice a lot of body roll on my test drive...or should i say test ride. the salesguy took me around the block and he made a sharp turn and i was being tossed to the side.

i'm going to try to test drive a 2009 pontiac vibe gt to see how much of a difference it is with the independant rear suspension.
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Old 05-26-2008, 11:46 AM   #4 (permalink)
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maybe if the xrs has the independant rear suspension handling will be much better and maybe lesser body roll. i did notice a lot of body roll on my test drive...or should i say test ride. the salesguy took me around the block and he made a sharp turn and i was being tossed to the side.

i'm going to try to test drive a 2009 pontiac vibe gt to see how much of a difference it is with the independant rear suspension.
That's probably the single thing that bothers me most. They put it on the 09 Matrix. Why, why didn't they just put it on the Corolla, too?
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Size wise, the Corolla is now what the Camry used to be roughly about 10yrs ago, medium sized and heavy.

IMO, for the Corolla or at least for the XRS to be considered a "performance model" Toyota would have to put a supercharger on the motor and beefed up suspension, only then they would be able to Compete with the Mazdaspeed and even the TSX.
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ok well i just got back from a test drive of the 2009 pontiac vibe...they didn't have the GT in stock so i only got to test the base model with the 2.4L engine. i don't know why but it handled better than the corolla that i test drove...the vibe had the torsion beam too and when i made a sharp turn there was almost no body roll. i guess getting some aftermarket suspension for the corolla will make it handle better.
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one of the reason why online reviewers wanna nail the XRS to cars like Mazda3 is because toyota keeps selling the XRS as the "sportier corolla with performance in mind"....but as it turns out toyota's definition of sportier + performance is just slap on a camry engine plus bigger wheels and add rear discs. so when these reviewers go in thinking they're getting a mazda3 they get utterly disappointed

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ok well i just got back from a test drive of the 2009 pontiac vibe...they didn't have the GT in stock so i only got to test the base model with the 2.4L engine. i don't know why but it handled better than the corolla that i test drove...the vibe had the torsion beam too and when i made a sharp turn there was almost no body roll. i guess getting some aftermarket suspension for the corolla will make it handle better.
No offense if you are a Pontiac fan, or a Big 3 fan at that, but they can boast better performance all they want, but when it comes to quality as well as reliability, they can't even come close to competing with Toyota or Honda. I bought a Toyota for the reliability factor as well as the quality factor. If I wanted a toy that would last me 2 years MAX, then i'd buy something else. This isn't a shot at you, just a shot at GM/Ford/Chrysler
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The Vibe is the same vehicle as the Matrix

Yeah I wish Toyota did more with the XRS. I mean they already have the S and isn't that supposed to be the conservative Toyota sport model? What's the point of having two conservative sport models, just one has a bigger, heavier engine, TRAC/VSC, 17" alloys, rear discs, strut tower bar and somewhat sportier suspension setup.
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no need to attack the vibe, which is made in the SAME plant as my XRS by the same UAW workers. The Vibe is a Toyota underneath so throwing in GM this and that doesn't really apply to it.

Anyway, the review is dead on. If grocery getting is the thing, the XRS definitely does the job with a little more power than the typical Corolla. With that in mind, I probably would've got settled for the S model, since the gas mileage is better, and you can get practically the same features (JBL, bodykit, etc.).
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ok well i just got back from a test drive of the 2009 pontiac vibe...they didn't have the GT in stock so i only got to test the base model with the 2.4L engine. i don't know why but it handled better than the corolla that i test drove...the vibe had the torsion beam too and when i made a sharp turn there was almost no body roll. i guess getting some aftermarket suspension for the corolla will make it handle better.
That's interesting. Vibe sits higher off ground and it is a taller car than a Corolla. Maybe the the tires do make a difference. I recently test drove a Corolla and the body roll was minimal body roll under "normal" circumstance say a right turn (90 degree). It was a CE with 195/65R15 tires. The body roll was less than an 07 Accord V6 with 17" tires (215/50R17) that has 4 wish-bones.
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That's interesting. Vibe sits higher off ground and it is a taller car than a Corolla. Maybe the the tires do make a difference. I recently test drove a Corolla and the body roll was minimal body roll under "normal" circumstance say a right turn (90 degree). It was a CE with 195/65R15 tires. The body roll was less than an 07 Accord V6 with 17" tires (215/50R17) that has 4 wish-bones.
That reminds me, do the tires make that much of a difference? I'm hearing them screech a lot, whether during acceleration or sharp turning.

BTW, the body roll I'm complaining about is when I'm doing 90 degrees at speeds above 30 mph. Is that considered 'normal'?
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I'm not really experienced or am I a fast driver, but hell, I did notice how much the Corolla sways during fast corners! That was too much swaying! Would those anti-sway bars really work? Are they expensive? Do you need to just add one for the front or should you also have one for the rear?

Am I off-topic?
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I'm not really experienced or am I a fast driver, but hell, I did notice how much the Corolla sways during fast corners! That was too much swaying! Would those anti-sway bars really work? Are they expensive? Do you need to just add one for the front or should you also have one for the rear?

Am I off-topic?
Your car should already come equipped with sway or "stabilizer" bars.

What you're noticing is probably body-roll that can be fixed with firmer struts and stiffer springs that lower the center of gravity of the car.
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Your car should already come equipped with sway or "stabilizer" bars.

What you're noticing is probably body-roll that can be fixed with firmer struts and stiffer springs that lower the center of gravity of the car.
Really? But aren't sway and roll the same thing? And I don't see that horizontal bar on top of the engine/front suspension. Isn't that the anti-roll bar?
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