I have visted a few other sites before coming here. I was looking for a Corolla but the resale on the 06-08's are nearly the same as the 09's. Since Corollas hold their value, (probably the best in the econo car industry) I decided the risk is minimal in getting into new one. Mind you I have never bought a new one before. Buying used is risky too, but when you sit down in one you know there are going to be things that are not perfect due to unknown comprehensive history (other than accidents etc.) So I put a deposit down. Most of the reviews I have read were in "the arm rest is the wrong height", or "door sill doesn't fit my arm" category, so I dismissed them promptly. Then I found this site...
I have friends that have an 03 and an 08. The 03 had issues with the clutch squeaking door seals falling down and the infamous radio falling down making a dash gap. The 08 has had no real issues other than a dash squeak when it is -15C or below.
I can filter all the personal opinion stuff but I am reading about all these rattling, paint, headliner issues have got me a little worried. I know it has been produced in other countries for a while now but has the car been in production long enough here in North America long enough to have some of these issues sorted out yet if I get one now?
Dude, if you're actually worried about getting a Corolla, you're gonna be scared crap when you see the issues on other cars.
Let me put it this way. The reason you get to see all the problems people are having with their new Corolla is because 1) This is a large site, and a lot of people drive Corollas, so you actually get to see some discussion going, unlike some other car brand sites with maybe 10 users per week discussing used parts for 5 year old models. 2) It is a Corolla. It has become the staple of the compact market for the past 20 years. People aren't upset about the quality being bad, they're upset about it not being perfect. There's a large difference there.
In short, IMO you're worrying about all the wrong things. The Corolla is a risk free buy, period. Almost any Toyota is, for that matter. If you're looking for something else (performance, in particular) then maybe you should turn elsewhere, but for reliability, safety, mpg and resale value, go get the car already.
Oh and btw, the waiting times seem to be topping 2 months atm. Good luck finding the car.
If you want to car you better get to a dealership ASAP, the wait time right now is probably 3 months or more for Canadians, which goes to show the huge demand for the car right now, especially the LE, S, and XRS models.
It's already on order as of Thursday. I bought the Magnetic Grey Corolla CE Automatic with Enhanced Convience Package. I bought this car purely based on a car for longevity, fuel economy and low maintenance. First time buying new jitters, that's all..I think.
I would hold off if I had to do it again. My primary reason has to do with the poor design of the electronic power steering, very noticeable at highway speeds. Aside from this issue the car is a good basic commuter car with exceptional mpg's. If Toyota decides to fix this issue then by all means go ahead and buy at that point. This is a major issue as I see it.
I am having trouble pinning down what people find wrong with the EPS. I have driven the 09' Corolla CE numerous times. I find the EPS system accurate and very relaxing to drive. I think we are so used to the XXmm of play found in the traditional hydraulic systems and the feedback we feel through that system, that we just are not used to this new way. They have had EPS for years in Lexas' haven't they?
I am having trouble pinning down what people find wrong with the EPS. I have driven the 09' Corolla CE numerous times. I find the EPS system accurate and very relaxing to drive. I think we are so used to the XXmm of play found in the traditional hydraulic systems and the feedback we feel through that system, that we just are not used to this new way. They have had EPS for years in Lexas' haven't they?
At slower speeds it is ok to drive and very responsive, only at highway speeds is it labor intensive in that you are constantly having to adjust to keep it going straight. Not fun.
At slower speeds it is ok to drive and very responsive, only at highway speeds is it labor intensive in that you are constantly having to adjust to keep it going straight. Not fun.
I also notice this since I drive on the interstates alot. I always attribute it to either high wind speeds or being that I have the windows down alot, that it affects how the vehicle handles.
I also notice this since I drive on the interstates alot. I always attribute it to either high wind speeds or being that I have the windows down alot, that it affects how the vehicle handles.
I am having trouble pinning down what people find wrong with the EPS. I have driven the 09' Corolla CE numerous times. I find the EPS system accurate and very relaxing to drive. I think we are so used to the XXmm of play found in the traditional hydraulic systems and the feedback we feel through that system, that we just are not used to this new way. They have had EPS for years in Lexas' haven't they?
You have driven the 09 Corolla numerous time and you did not notice what's wrong with it? Try driving it on a straight line for 4 hours and you will know what we mean of bad EPS. I came to a point of disabbling the EPS by taking off the fuse but it has a different kind of fuse (60 amp), I have an XLE. Did somebody tried the same thing? Plese let me know. Yes, its good on slow speed but more than 50 mph, forget about it.
I've been driving for more than 25 years now & I drove a lot of different vehicles with EPS. I can say that this is the worst EPS I've ever encounter. Do I still love the car? YES I do, but not totally bec of that damn EPS.
i just got back from a 3 hour road trip and the EPS was not a problem to me.i did notice a little less steering feedback on the interstate at speeds at 65 or 70 but no big deal.i had the jbl cranked up and was cruising.and who drives 4 hours in a straight line anyway?
I have my 09 since April 19/th and I've drive it at all speeds and over most kinds of roads. Just this weekend I drove from Cape Breton, Nova Scotia, to Stouffville Ontario. About 1250km and every kind of road, from two lane country roads to the 401. Speed limits from 70kmh to 110kmh and in all kinds of weather. From dry to downpours in Quebec, including thunder storms with about 1" of water on the road. No problems with steering at any time. Very relaxing trip which included 19 1/2 hours of driving, which I did by myself because my wife didn't want to drive. I can"t see where people are having trouble with EPS.
i just got back from a 3 hour road trip and the EPS was not a problem to me.i did notice a little less steering feedback on the interstate at speeds at 65 or 70 but no big deal.i had the jbl cranked up and was cruising.and who drives 4 hours in a straight line anyway?
I live in California. From Los Angeles to San Francisco is 6 hours drive. 4 of those hours are dead straight driving if you take the Interstate 5. When I said dead straight I mean really straight. If there are no other vehicles you can actually sleep for a few minutes, if you don't move your steering wheel. So yes, a lot of us here drive 4 hrs in a straigt line.
On the city, EPS is a blessing, but on the freeway its a piece of $h!t. I grew up with Toyota and I love their cars, I just don't like the EPS unit that they used in this car (Honda, Nissan, etc. EPS is way better). Open your eyes and read some reviews from different Car Magazines and some other members here, they're saying the same thing. You are just probably on denial because you know that there's nothing that you can do except to live with it.
After a brief search, there seems to be a predominant number of US owners that are reporting this. Considering there are separate US/CDN manufacturing plants, I wonder if there are different programming in these EPS systems. Not trying to cause problems here but just an observation.
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