I have been driving this car for quite some time, forgot what it is like to have a car payment. Anyhow the XRS really looks nice and I like the 2.4 engine with the extra features.
I live in miami
I am thinking of an XRS with
1. Navigation system I know it costs more but I like having the factory unit, and it looks like a nice system.
2. Remote start,remote key,power windows
3. Does it come with an external audio input for an ipod?
Are the 09s bigger inside than the 1998s, should I wait for the 2010 edition? do they ususually change much between an 09 and 10, issues ironed out with a new generation one year later?
I do not plan on buying it for another 8 months. so I suspect I will be looking at 2010 models. Will the XRS with nav feature usually be on the lot or will it end up being a special order deal.
from my observation most car manufacturers dont really change much in a car design for 4-5 years. they dont reshape and redesign a car model every year. since the 09 corolla is the redesigned year model, maybe you are looking at 2012 before you can see any major shape design in the corolla both interior and exterior.
^^^definitely agree with the above mentioned..if your deadline is in 8 months..i doubt that design will change..maybe a few improvements if there would be anything wrong with the first 10th gen models though..if that's the case with you..then take your 8th months and see what happens..just my opinion..hehe..
1. Navigation system I know it costs more but I like having the factory unit, and it looks like a nice system.
Sure you don't want the JBL instead? It rocks!
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3. Does it come with an external audio input for an ipod?
Yes.
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Are the 09s bigger inside than the 1998s, should I wait for the 2010 edition? do they ususually change much between an 09 and 10, issues ironed out with a new generation one year later?
Cars have gotten bigger over the years. The 09 Corolla is about as big as a 1998 Camry. As for the change, Toyota usually has 4 year intervals, so you probably won't see a drastic difference in the next year.
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Will the XRS with nav feature usually be on the lot or will it end up being a special order deal.
I'd suggest you'd go to a dealer and ask about this. Now. I don't know if you've had experience with Southeast Toyota (they run all the Toyotas in Florida) but IMO they're not very helpful with special orders. Good luck on that.
The 09 Corolla as big as a 98 Camry, that is quite interesting. I figure the 2010 will take care of all the little issues discovered in the 09's with no other changes otherwise. Well the stereo in my 98 was good enough soundwise for me so I figure the 2009 will be an improvement even if it is not the JBL. The nav unit looks nice, especially for road trips.
The 09 Corollas really look nice compared to what they have been in a long time, especially the XRS. I saw one and it is an impressive looking car, I had to do a double take since I did not think it was a corolla.
I hear the steering is drive by wire. Not familiar with that.
^The steering is going to get you, maybe not at first but eventually. The wheel on the XRS starts off tighter than the base models, but it loosens up and becomes more or less as dumpy as the car breaks in. Thought you'd might want to know that first.
For the NAV system... the Toyota Nav's aren't very nice. They are actually quite cheap looking. You are better off to spend $1000 on an aftermarket in-dash 2-DIN 7" LCD Nav system from Alpine, Pioneer, Kenwood instead. You will save money and you will get a nicer looking product. Save your money and go for an aftermarket "INDASH" nav system. I think they all use the Garmin GPS system.
thats my opinion at least. if you want to spend 1500 on the toyota unit then no problem if you want everything to be factory installed.
for the double din nav system, kenwood dnx8120 has been reviewed to be the best in all aspects and features compared to everything that is out in the market today.
im going to interject
here and say might be better to wait for the next model
the 2.4l engine used in the xrs is a somewhat outdated engine.
i think here in the us we are the only ones that got this engine put into the xrs
now the rest of the world has had this car for a while now
we got it late XD
so a redesign next year might not be completely out of the question
specially since the new 2.5l engine for the rav4 was just annouced
it wouldnt be to far of to speculate that this new 2.5l engine going in next years models will go into the xrs the same time
however
with the car market as it is today XD
its so sporatic that we cant really tell whats going to happen next sometimes
you can buy a new xrs this year and next year baam newer stronger torquier engine with same economy or better due to new technology going in
by asking here on TN you did a good thing =P
most of us are toyota nerds and we hunt down lots of neat little toyota news
will keep eyes and ears open on posible news on redesigns and if the new 2.5l engine will go into the next year xrs
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I doubt they will do anything for the XRS... they did one version of the XRS in the 9th Gen... so why would they do back to back years with XRS refinements. The XRS wont be changed (drastically, and i mean engine/body/suspension etc...) until 11th Gen Corolla. So no point waiting. All you may get in a 2010 model is some fancy rain sensing wipers or something like that. Possibly a digital speedometer. So If you can wait 3+ years for a new XRS corolla with a different engine then by all means wait it out. I didn't feel like waiting. As for the Rav 4 engine, they wont pop that into a corolla anytime soon. Look how long they waited after the release of the 2.4L camry engine to pop it into the Corolla. It will be YEARS before that 2.5 sees a corolla.
Thats my opinion at least. I'd love to be proven wrong, but waiting for the next update is going to be painful since it will be outdated just as fast as this current 10th Gen XRS...
I doubt they will do anything for the XRS... they did one version of the XRS in the 9th Gen... so why would they do back to back years with XRS refinements. The XRS wont be changed (drastically, and i mean engine/body/suspension etc...) until 11th Gen Corolla. So no point waiting. All you may get in a 2010 model is some fancy rain sensing wipers or something like that. Possibly a digital speedometer. So If you can wait 3+ years for a new XRS corolla with a different engine then by all means wait it out. I didn't feel like waiting. As for the Rav 4 engine, they wont pop that into a corolla anytime soon. Look how long they waited after the release of the 2.4L camry engine to pop it into the Corolla. It will be YEARS before that 2.5 sees a corolla.
Thats my opinion at least. I'd love to be proven wrong, but waiting for the next update is going to be painful since it will be outdated just as fast as this current 10th Gen XRS...
well everyone else in the world has been rocking a 2.4l xrs since 2006
we got it late as a 2009 model
im just saying as a mid cycle reflresh for 2010 4 years after release
maybe they will get the new engine
its definately able to fit in there
rav4 is just a lifted corolla =P in a way
and who would say no to more horepower
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that is what i liked in the 09 corolla S 1.8 engine. beside being able to save gas on a smaller engine, it is not a hand-me-down engine from a previous famous car model.
I just did something similar to what the original poster is considering - went from a 1997 Corolla CE to a 2009 (LE in my case). It feels a good bit roomier inside - except for possibly the headroom "feels" like a little less, but it might just be me. Performance wise, the new 1.8 liter engine seems to be a good bit smoother on uptake and cruising than my old Corolla. I used to easily roll to a stop by getting off the gas pedal and letting the engine wind down. Doesn't work quite as well in the new car as it doesn't seem to lose steam as quickly.
Fuel economy on the 1.8 liter lead me in that direction vs the 2.4 liter (which is the same as in the Scion Tc I believe which is another model I considered as I liked it over the Corolla S). I put 239k on the 1997 Corolla, so I went with the 1.8 liter engine in the end - in the first 200 or so miles of break in I'm getting 38.2 MPG which I'm happy with. This is about 50/50 highway driving. Typically I do 90% highway, so I'm hoping to do 40 MPG consistently once I'm through the break in. Glad I went with the Corolla again. I like that it feels comfortable and a lot like what I was used to driving. Creature of habit I guess.
The 09 Corolla as big as a 98 Camry, that is quite interesting. I figure the 2010 will take care of all the little issues discovered in the 09's with no other changes otherwise. Well the stereo in my 98 was good enough soundwise for me so I figure the 2009 will be an improvement even if it is not the JBL. The nav unit looks nice, especially for road trips.
The 09 Corollas really look nice compared to what they have been in a long time, especially the XRS. I saw one and it is an impressive looking car, I had to do a double take since I did not think it was a corolla.
I hear the steering is drive by wire. Not familiar with that.
Yeah they're a lot bigger but they're also quite comfortable to sit in.
The steering is electrically power-assisted (i.e. no hydraulics and therefore no power steering fluid). The accelerator is by-wire (drive-by-wire) and that's been in the Corolla since 2005 (the midlife update). The steering is still mechanically connected to a rod.
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I doubt they will do anything for the XRS... they did one version of the XRS in the 9th Gen... so why would they do back to back years with XRS refinements. The XRS wont be changed (drastically, and i mean engine/body/suspension etc...) until 11th Gen Corolla. So no point waiting. All you may get in a 2010 model is some fancy rain sensing wipers or something like that. Possibly a digital speedometer. So If you can wait 3+ years for a new XRS corolla with a different engine then by all means wait it out. I didn't feel like waiting. As for the Rav 4 engine, they wont pop that into a corolla anytime soon. Look how long they waited after the release of the 2.4L camry engine to pop it into the Corolla. It will be YEARS before that 2.5 sees a corolla.
Thats my opinion at least. I'd love to be proven wrong, but waiting for the next update is going to be painful since it will be outdated just as fast as this current 10th Gen XRS...
I beg to differ.
The 2.4l engine in the current Corolla XRS (or Camry, Rav4... etc) is an old engine. The 2.5l is brought out to replace it and it will be in the 09 Rav4 that arrives to dealerships this September. 2010 Camry will be getting it. I doubt the Corolla is going to be sticking with an engine that barely any other car uses for much longer. It doesn't make sense financially to make two engines that would overlap each other in terms of deployment. Plus the XRS is only has a little higher hp than some of the other basic offerings from other companies. It needs the upgrade pretty badly imo. So I think if the 2.5 doesn't come for 2010, it would definitely be here for MY2011, available sometime in summer next year.
And I doubt we would be getting a digital speedo, nothing in Toyota I can think of has that right now.
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