I bought mine in june soo obviously i havent been in the ice or snow and i was just asking people that have driven in the cold, ice and snow (canadians).....lol....how does it handle??
I doubt anyone knows...since we haven't had snow here since maybe March. Corolla was launched just after. Actually...since you're in St. Louis, you can tell us how it drives in the snow first j/k
Even with/without traction control snow tires rule. I have had a few cars with good dedicated snow tires and some with studs and you can walk away from all the others at intersections like they were standing still with their "no seasons" some that even have 4x4. It need not be high performance snows either. As long as you have a complete 4 set you will have much superior traction tires. Look for the mountain snowflake symbol:
Here is a simple video that illustrates the differences with many different setups (click the front wheel drive section): http://www.betiresmart.ca/video/apa.asp
I got a set of 4 for $40 CDN ea studded one year at wally world on sale and it made a world of difference.
I doubt anyone knows...since we haven't had snow here since maybe March. Corolla was launched just after. Actually...since you're in St. Louis, you can tell us how it drives in the snow first j/k
Corolla production started in January and the model was officially launched Feb. 15, 2008 in Canada. I took delivery of my XRS at the end of February, and we did have snow on and off for another couple months.
It's decent in the snow, but I don't care for the Bridgestone EL400's in the snow at all. I always have dedicated snow tires, and the XRS will be no exception. Traction control is by NO means any sort of substitute for winter tires, that's crazy talk.
I'll either go with Michelin X-Ice or Toyo G-02+ winter tires. I have some 17" 1st Gen TRD Matrix wheels that I will be using for winter. I wish I could have gotten some nice 15 or 16 inch alloy wheels instead, both because of better traction and cheaper tires, but I got a ridiculous deal on the 17" wheels, so I'll use them anyways .
Listen to Jeff.... ALWAYS use winter tires. All Season tires do not do much, and trac control isn't a replacement. From my experience, people with snow tires on small cars are better in the snow (especially FWD) than any AWD SUV with out winter tires.
And if you can put 15 or 16's on instead of 17's you will be better off aswell since it will cut through better. Low Profile tires SUCK in the snow.
My last car i had X-Ice's on to go with my AWD 323GTX and i could plow through anything.
alright guys so im not to familliar with snow tires....will it hurt them if you drive them in warm weather with no snow because thats St. Louis weather for ya, one day its 20 degress and snowing then its 60 degress and sunny..
your tires will be fine... however, the more you drive them on warm pavement the more they wear down... My rule of thumb is, Put them on in december/late november... and then take them off in mid-late march... depending on your weather of course... if it stops snowing like march 2nd... then take it off then... but if it snows until april... then hold out a bit... Or if you are comfortable driving your regular tires & rims in the odd snowfall that occurs in march / april then do it then... but for the brunt of the winter leave them on... Dec - March is always a safe bet.
Snow tires are a softer rubber that soak up and stick to wet/icy surfaces... Not to mention the treads are designed for optimal snow management.
Here in Southern Ontario the weather has been warm, then cold, then a ton of snow... so it fluctuates aswell. I always leave my tires on until mid march... or if it is an extra long winter then i leave them on until april.
alright guys so im not to familliar with snow tires....will it hurt them if you drive them in warm weather with no snow because thats St. Louis weather for ya, one day its 20 degress and snowing then its 60 degress and sunny..
the snow that fell the day before when it was 20 doesnt mean it is gone the following day when it is 60. keep putting on the snow tires as long as you think you are expecting snow in the following days. and NO it wont hurt to have snow tires in warm days.
The factory Bridgestone EL400 tires are notoriously bad in rain and snow. Even in dry weather, they're pretty awful (coming from someone used to high-quality all-season and performance tires). Replace them before winter with good all-season tires and you should be fine. Check out all the negative reviews of Bridgestone EL400s on TireRack's website to get a feel for how bad they are. There was a night-and-day improvement in steering feel and overall handling when I changed over to General Altimax HP tires after a few hundred miles of torture with the Bridgestones.
Question...because I'm new to snow tires and tires in general. I've got the XRS with the 17in Bridgestones...nice in the fair weather but the dealership warned me when I bought it that come winter some proper winter tires would be a good idea.
Someone was suggesting to me that 16in would be cheaper for the winter tires. So...how does that work? Wouldn't a different size throw everything off for speed and distance calculations? Probably a stupid question but I should figure this out sooner than later
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