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Old 03-21-2009, 03:26 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I have an '09 S. I normally avoid automated car washes at all costs. However this winter was particularly "salty" in my area and I had to run it through a soft brushless car wash to remove all the salt. Now I've been noticing some really annoying swirls in the paint. Can anyone reccomend a good glazing compound to remove them and do I need to do the whole vehicle or just the affected areas ?
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Old 03-21-2009, 04:06 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Just about any liquid polish will take out the swirel marks, I use Mothers brand wax and polish. If you polish it with a random orbitol buffer it would do a realy good job of taking the swirels out. The buffer is a good investment and you will have it for a long time to keep your car(s) looking good.
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Old 03-21-2009, 04:37 PM   #3 (permalink)
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mothers is a good brand but u really need an orbital polisher. go to the mother's website and they have all the things you need with the kind of job that you plan to do.

now here is the take... if you have never polished your car before with an orbital polisher and you plan to do patches of polishing only, you will notice later on that some parts are more shiny than other parts. so you have to decide what you want to do. make sure you have the patience and time if you want to do the whole car.

i just dont know but maybe i am just too meticulous when it comes to shining my car. because for me a brand new car that is not that shiny is an ugly car.

i use the powerball 4paint with an electric drill and fx synwax, both from mothers. look at my avatar.
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I have had a random orbitol polisher for years, it does a fantastic job. All you have to do is start with one panel and you will see the difference it makes. You will not want to stop there and have one panel looking realy good and the other ones with a dull finish. Wait till you have a chance to do the job right and do the whole car.
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buy a PC7424 detailing kit and do some reading over at autopia
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Don't forget some automotive clay!!!!
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The Porter Cable is the best

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buy a PC7424 detailing kit and do some reading over at autopia

I have the Porter Cable Random orbital polisher and use it with the Mother's and Mequires products (The Mother's "Power Polish" is well suited to the 1st step.

Then I use the Mequires 3 step process. The PC cuts the work load better than by half and it has been worth the investment thru the years. The PC is made in China but it seems to have better craftsmanship than most

After that job, I use a claybar, and then Mequires Gold paste wax...comes out great! Luckily I only claybar once a year because you do not use the PC with claybar..

For polishing and paste waxing, you can't beat the PC. To be honest, this is the 3rd auto I have used the PC on. It is a sturdy unit and is worth the money IMHO! The PC + the Mothers power polish is fantastic with swirl marks!
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I've yet to find one person who can use a buffer well enough to keep me from seeing minor scratch marks. I prefer hand waxing and polishing and using the right cloth to ensure there are no scratch marks. I never use anything other than an electric blower to dry the car as this eliminates any scratches or water spots. I never have any issues with swirl marks.
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Old 03-24-2009, 03:25 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I find that the electric buffer turn too fast and leave tiny swirl marks, you can see the swirl marks under the right angle and lighting

use a microfiber cloth really gently to avoid these marks when applying and wiping the wax
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I find that the electric buffer turn too fast and leave tiny swirl marks, you can see the swirl marks under the right angle and lighting

use a microfiber cloth really gently to avoid these marks when applying and wiping the wax
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I've yet to find one person who can use a buffer well enough to keep me from seeing minor scratch marks. I prefer hand waxing and polishing and using the right cloth to ensure there are no scratch marks. I never use anything other than an electric blower to dry the car as this eliminates any scratches or water spots. I never have any issues with swirl marks.

have you guys ever tried the paint 4 ball yet? im satisfied with it. although i only use it when i see light scratches/single lines that is a bit visible in certain light or angles.
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There are 2 devices, a polisher and a random orbitol polisher. You would have to apply a lot of preasure on the random orbitol polisher to make swirel marks.


Pic of Random orbitol polisher: http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/fo...alPolisher.jpg

Pic of car polisher : http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2...er-DP1802-.jpg

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Old 03-24-2009, 05:39 PM   #12 (permalink)
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There are 2 devices, a polisher and a random orbitol polisher. You would have to apply a lot of preasure on the random orbitol polisher to make swirel marks.


Pic of Random orbitol polisher: http://archive.meguiarsonline.com/fo...alPolisher.jpg

Pic of car polisher : http://www.made-in-china.com/image/2...er-DP1802-.jpg

please tell us the difference between the 2 polishers.
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Old 03-24-2009, 08:47 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think the 1st pic is a regular orbiter that simply rotates whereas the random one turns in an eccentric ramdom manner more like a natural hand movement

I don't know if there is any advantage to the ramdom one
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I think the 1st pic is a regular orbiter that simply rotates whereas the random one turns in an eccentric ramdom manner more like a natural hand movement

I don't know if there is any advantage to the ramdom one
Think there's more to it than what you say.
The grinder type is used by professionals. Needs some experience to use. Generates quite a bit of heat and gives great results fast. In the hand of a newbie it can take out the paint.
The random orbital polisher is much easier to use. Rotates slower at random orbits. Hence the name. Takes much more time.

Both definitely gives better results than elbow grease.
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:57 AM   #15 (permalink)
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There I fixed that......People who aren't expereinced or pros should get a random orbital buffer/polisher for machine waxing, it's a LOT safer and easier to use, than the standards which can easily burn your paint if you do it wrong
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