I just got in to this forum.
Im from norway. I have the corolla 2008 is the same as the 09 in the US. my bolt are 114,3 X 5. I have seen some of you have 18" wheels on the corolla. but I want to know if some body knows how big wheels is the biggest to fit on the corolla. I want to buy some 19x9.5 on the rear and 19x8,5 on the front. 265.30.19 tires rear and 235.35.19 tires on the front
does some one knows if this will fit
here we dont have the corolla s or the xrs, in norway the car have some more equipment than other euro contrys. but because of the high taxts the biggest engine we have are the 1,6 with 124hp dualvvti and 2.0 diesel engine with 126 hp d4d. and the smalest is 1,4 with 97hp vvti and 1,4 diesel with 90hp d4d
but i wondering if some one knows the difference between the 1,6 gasoline and the us 1.8? they have the same the same engine name
Having a staggered setup (wider tires in back) on a front-wheel drive vehicle is not only unnecessary, but it's potentially dangerous. Staggered setups are commonplace on rear-wheel drive vehicles, not front-wheel drive. It will serve no benefit. Use this site: http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp
Having a staggered setup (wider tires in back) on a front-wheel drive vehicle is not only unnecessary, but it's potentially dangerous. Staggered setups are commonplace on rear-wheel drive vehicles, not front-wheel drive. It will serve no benefit.
staggered fitment does have a benefit. it looks really good. btw why would it be dangerous to have wider tires at the rear if the car is fwd?
staggered fitment does have a benefit. it looks really good. btw why would it be dangerous to have wider tires at the rear if the car is fwd?
It does not look good on a FWD vehicle and it's pointless. It serves no benefit. The rear tires are not propelling the vehicle like they are on a RWD vehicle, thus it serves no purpose. Having a staggered setup on a FWD vehicle causes inherent balance issues with the vehicles handling. It increases understeer for one, and introduces tracking issues. A FWD vehicle just isn't meant to have a staggered setup. What I'm saying is, your car will handle worse (more understeer) than before without a staggered setup. Why would anyone want to do that? Some RWD vehicles have staggered setups to increase grip by reducing oversteer (giving the rear drive wheels more grip). This does not work on a FWD vehicle.
It does not look good on a FWD vehicle and it's pointless. It serves no benefit. The rear tires are not propelling the vehicle like they are on a RWD vehicle, thus it serves no purpose. Having a staggered setup on a FWD vehicle causes inherent balance issues with the vehicles handling. It increases understeer for one, and introduces tracking issues. A FWD vehicle just isn't meant to have a staggered setup. What I'm saying is, your car will handle worse (more understeer) than before without a staggered setup. Why would anyone want to do that? Some RWD vehicles have staggered setups to increase grip by reducing oversteer (giving the rear drive wheels more grip). This does not work on a FWD vehicle.
never did a staggered fitment looked ugly. it is not like because the rear are wider that the front will drag them like dead weight. if you say it causes inherent balance issue, worse handling (more understeer) etc. maybe you need to back up these issues with hard facts. or are they just ideas of being biased to either staggered fitment or a front wheel drive car?
never did a staggered fitment looked ugly. it is not like because the rear are wider that the front will drag them like dead weight. if you say it causes inherent balance issue, worse handling (more understeer) etc. maybe you need to back up these issues with hard facts. or are they just ideas of being biased to either staggered fitment or a front wheel drive car?
I just got in to this forum.
Im from norway. I have the corolla 2008 is the same as the 09 in the US. my bolt are 114,3 X 5. I have seen some of you have 18" wheels on the corolla. but I want to know if some body knows how big wheels is the biggest to fit on the corolla. I want to buy some 19x9.5 on the rear and 19x8,5 on the front. 265.30.19 tires rear and 235.35.19 tires on the front
does some one knows if this will fit
i think 19 x 9 is the widest wheel size you can use at the rear without removing the wheel well plastic liner. 265/30/19 wont do because 265 millimeters is roughly 10.4 inches wide. 235/35/19 is safe at the rear.
never did a staggered fitment looked ugly. it is not like because the rear are wider that the front will drag them like dead weight. if you say it causes inherent balance issue, worse handling (more understeer) etc. maybe you need to back up these issues with hard facts. or are they just ideas of being biased to either staggered fitment or a front wheel drive car?
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WOW...I definitely gotta show this to the VW guys at work tomorrow...LOL!
Looks are personal, so because I don't like the look of staggered setups on FWD vehicles or stretched tires (a VW/Audi thing) doesn't mean the same for all.
However, joeygarcia, you question whether or not I post with facts. Go do some research and you will find the answer. Staggered setups on FWD vehicles are purely for looks and serve no performance benefit. In fact, they are a performance detriment. You ask for more proof, facts. Perhaps you should conduct your own. Perhaps you should remove yourself from the situation and think about it logically for a second. FWD vehicles have built-in understeer. This is a fact. It is not something to debate. This is just the nature of a FWD setup from the factory. Answer me this: what benefit would adding more grip (staggered setup) to a FWD vehicle provide? It will cause more understeer because now the front tires are smaller than the rear, providing even less grip than before. When the tires in front are smaller than the rear, they have a smaller contact patch (ie. amount of tire in contact with the road). With a smaller contact patch, they do not have as much grip as the rears. When you have less grip in front, the car understeers. This will cause the car to rotate less in corners, providing worse handling. Honestly, think about this logically and answer me what benefit that provides. Why would you want to make a car handle worse. Staggered setups on FWD vehicles are purely for looks and serve no benefit to the handling or driveability of the vehicle. If you cannot comprehend this, then I am sorry, there is nothing I can do with that. You will have to educate yourself with how vehicles handle and then perhaps you can understand.
Svrajam i just quoted you on that thing when you said that staggered fitment just doesnt look good on a FWD. so i answered by saying that staggered fitment of wheel and tire will always look good on most cars even if it is a FWD.
as for the handling and etc. that will be quite a long discussion since i asked you to back up with facts the issues you pointed out. for now let us put that on hold.
Svrajam i just quoted you on that thing when you said that staggered fitment just doesnt look good on a FWD. so i answered by saying that staggered fitment of wheel and tire will always look good on most cars even if it is a FWD.
as for the handling and etc. that will be quite a long discussion since i asked you to back up with facts the issues you pointed out. for now let us put that on hold.
No, it will not "always look good" because looks are subjective. They depend on the person looking at it.
For your second point, what facts do you want? What facts are you looking for? What more do you want, other than my explanation? I told you to go do your own research so you can have an informed discussion with me, instead of one where you do not have the necessary knowledge. Do you not have the proper ability to deduce reasoning from what I posted? I'm not trying to insult your intelligence, but seriously; what more do you want? Is what I posted not commonsensical enough for you?
FWD vehicles have a natural tendency to understeer from the factory. That means, they do not have enough grip at the front end to rotate through a corner (due to the front tires having two jobs; powering the vehicle AND turning The tires become overwhelmed). Adding more grip to the rear tires (staggered setup) just further exacerbates that problem, because now the front tires have even less grip. The car will understeer more. The car will not rotate through a corner as well (still not great) as before. What more do you want than that? It is clear that you lack fundamental knowledge of how vehicles operate and handle. You will need to improve upon that before this discussion goes any further, for I cannot assist you with that any further than I have explained. If a staggered setup in the rear added performance, then all of those FWD race cars in the SPEED Challenge and other series would do it. They don't. For good reason, as I mentioned.
Staggered wheel and tire setups on a FWD car serve no performance benefit whatsoever. The only purpose I would see is if they owner likes the look of such.... but even that is subjective.
joeylgarcia, there are no facts that can be supplied in this discussion. The only way you can understand where Svrajam is coming from is to go out yourself and actually test drive a few FWD cars with staggered wheel and tire setups and report back on how it detrimentally affects handling compared to a car that doesn't. This is something that you have to experience to understand so please don't continue arguing about something which cannot be disputed.
I'm locking this thread to prevent it from turning into a flame war.
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