My mom has a 2010 Corolla. She had a remote starter installed last week. A few days later she got her car stolen. It was stolen in her apartment building parking lot during the night. I was wondering how a Corolla with a chip in the key can get stolen that easily? Maybe a remote starter makes it easier for a robber to steal it?
What they do is they ask for all 3 keys, then they program the module that comes with the remote, then they give us back the 3 keys. I guess they use the keys to program the remote, so that it can open doors, as well as start the car. Years ago, they kept one key hidden in the car someplace so that the car could start with the remote, since the key has a chip in it. That's the way it was last year. This year with the same Orbit remote starter, they gave back all 3 keys, since they added a module, that simulates the chip in the key I guess. My mom thinks that someone at that garage who installed the remote could be responsible of the robery. She told the cops about this, when they came over to write a report.
I was just wondering if it's easier for someone to steal a Corolla with rather than without a remote starter installed, since they played in the wiring...
I'm not saying that someone at the garage stole her car, but was simply wondering that once a remote is installed, if it,s easier for a robber to steal the car.
Without a key, how can the stiring wheel turn, so that they can drive away with it....?
Even though I only have a rough working knowledge of how a remote starter works it seems to me that someone could have wired the car not to shut off with a certain RFID code or something to that effect. I find it very odd that a week after the install it was ripped off.
I would say it is more likely to get ripped off with a starter kit because you are transferring the RFID codes to the remote starter. But it still sounds like an inside job
Even though I only have a rough working knowledge of how a remote starter works it seems to me that someone could have wired the car not to shut off with a certain RFID code or something to that effect. I find it very odd that a week after the install it was ripped off.
I would say it is more likely to get ripped off with a starter kit because you are transferring the RFID codes to the remote starter. But it still sounds like an inside job
I guess it's possible. Your best bet is to talk to the owner of the place. Not sure how much help he can give you though.
Although Im no security expert, Ive been told by a shop that it is possible to bypass the immobilizer using a bypass kit. They hinted at another way of saving money and not buying the bypass kit by disabling the immobilizer altogether. If this was the case, they would get away with using a nonchipped key. Im not saying it was the shop, but if they drove it away, thats how I think they did it.
What I dont understand is why somone would steal a corolla. This is not a fast car, and there is virtually no market for oem parts(chop shops). I hope they recover it, but at the worse somone will be driving it around for a year.
Theres a good chance the person who did this has experience doing it. Its a stretch, but see if other people who got remote starters there had their cars stolen as well (make a post on craigslist or something for information). If they did, the shop might keep records of who did what installation and you may find the same person did them all.
I was just wondering if it's easier for someone to steal a Corolla with rather than without a remote starter installed, since they played in the wiring...
I'm not saying that someone at the garage stole her car, but was simply wondering that once a remote is installed, if it,s easier for a robber to steal the car.
Without a key, how can the stiring wheel turn, so that they can drive away with it....?
first of all i am not a thief lol, cars that are a few years old are very simple to hot wire... give me 2 minutes and I could be on my way... now cars with a chip in the key may be a little different however, never tried it on newer vehicles... but if the remote starter wires were crossed to start the car and the remote starter ecu contains the code the car ecu needs i suppose it would be pretty simple... maybe i should try to steal my own car for fun! oh and steering wheel locks (like all other locks) are made for honest people only and can easily be defeated.
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What I dont understand is why somone would steal a corolla. This is not a fast car, and there is virtually no market for oem parts(chop shops). I hope they recover it, but at the worse somone will be driving it around for a year.
think about it... if i am a thief i dont want to steal a car that stands out, i want to blend in with the crowd... he/she would be in a "sea" of corollas on the road
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Remote starters, especially ones installed by Aftermarket Shops sometimes find ways to trick the ECU when there is an Engine Immobilizer. My buddy installs them and says it is common practice to tinker with the ECU when it comes to the unique RFID code in the key fob. He wouldn't give me specific details, but he did say that it wouldn't surprise him if, "a buddy of a buddy who worked at the shop was given the tip on where the car would be parked, and where it is etc... " shady garages
Corollas are all over the roads of Quebec, you can not come to an intersection without seeing 2 or 3 others around you. The more popular cars are stolen for the parts and for export.
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lol, cars that are a few years old are very simple to hot wire... give me 2 minutes and I could be on my way... now cars with a chip in the key may be a little different however, never tried it on newer vehicles... but if the remote starter wires were crossed to start the car and the remote starter ecu contains the code the car ecu needs i suppose it would be pretty simple... maybe i should try to steal my own car for fun
! oh and steering wheel locks (like all other locks) are made for honest people only and can easily be defeated. 
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