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Old 09-17-2009, 07:27 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is this really necessary?

Is it really necessary to do those 5,000 mile mark checks that Toyota has in the book? Cuz im coming up to 15,000 miles now and the dealer was telling me it cost about $200. Wondering if these checks that they have listed in the books are really that necessary to spend the money or it just a waste of money and i should not do them.
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Is it really necessary to do those 5,000 mile mark checks that Toyota has in the book? Cuz im coming up to 15,000 miles now and the dealer was telling me it cost about $200. Wondering if these checks that they have listed in the books are really that necessary to spend the money or it just a waste of money and i should not do them.
Maybe not ALL necessary but advisable. Most however you can do yourself. then it doesn't cost you anything!
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Maybe not ALL necessary but advisable. Most however you can do yourself. then it doesn't cost you anything!
You are talking to someone who knows sh** about a car. the most i know about a car is when i need an oil change otherwise from that all this stuff is new to me. So trying to learn now and not spend tons on unnecessary things.
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Is it really necessary to do those 5,000 mile mark checks that Toyota has in the book? Cuz im coming up to 15,000 miles now and the dealer was telling me it cost about $200. Wondering if these checks that they have listed in the books are really that necessary to spend the money or it just a waste of money and i should not do them.
go to another dealer...I paid less than $100 for my 15K service recently. It's pretty much a 5K service everytime.
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You are talking to someone who knows sh** about a car. the most i know about a car is when i need an oil change otherwise from that all this stuff is new to me. So trying to learn now and not spend tons on unnecessary things.
Well maybe it's time you did learn sh** about cars. Most of the stuff in those services is easy to do. you can pick up a book at a library or a car parts store that will teach you a lot of what you know. Unless you're 70 years old or handicapped, it's good stuff to know and do. But yes, ESPECIALLY if you know nothing about cars you should get the service, because if you know nothing about cars, you probably wouldn't notice anything going wrong.

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Is it really necessary to do those 5,000 mile mark checks that Toyota has in the book? Cuz im coming up to 15,000 miles now and the dealer was telling me it cost about $200. Wondering if these checks that they have listed in the books are really that necessary to spend the money or it just a waste of money and i should not do them.

Don't go to the dealer. I just had my 15k check and I went to Firestone... they did the whole thing for $16. and they found something wrong with my car that the dealer missed!
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man doesnt anyone read the other threads or use the search feature.....dude, honestly, i'll tell u what the dealer's gona do, oil change, check ur brakes and fluid, rotate your tires and change ur air cabin filter. atleast thats what they did on my first service. out of those air cabin filter u can change yourself, if it even needs changing (read ur owners manual for a list of DIY, it says clearly how to check and change it). i am on the dealerships free oil change program so i have no choice but to let them do their maintainance, but i dont let them rotate my tires or change my cabir filter, i can do both myself for free. another advice, just ask them what they are charging $200 for..they will give u a list of things they do and the labour associated with those tasks. then u be the judge and decide what needs to be done and what not. and yes my friend, u need to start learing about your car, it will save you money and hassle for the future.
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There's absolutely no need to learn anything about cars. Most people don't. Just pull out the plastic and pay what they say. It's as simple as that. But if you want to keep from being ripped off, find an honest mechanic () or learn something about cars.
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Don't go to the dealer. I just had my 15k check and I went to Firestone... they did the whole thing for $16. and they found something wrong with my car that the dealer missed!
what did the dealer miss?
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My Dealer hasn't charged my any extra for the checks.

I just go in and have my oil changed and tires rotated and they have doen the 5,10,15 and 20K checks for no additional charge.

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if you don't get those checks done by an authorized toyota mechanic then in the future if something should go wrong they might void your warranty.
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Old 09-20-2009, 09:04 PM   #12 (permalink)
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The checks are something almost anyone can do. In fact, the back of the maintenance guide lists exactly what to look for!
You do not have to take it to an authorized Toyota Mechanic to have these checks done to maintain your warranty. If you'd bother to read the stupid maintenance manual, it CLEARLY says "Toyota will not deny a warranty claim solely because you do not have records to show that you maintained your vehicle." Also, "Toyota will not deny a warranty claim solely because you used a service provider other than a Toyota dealership for maintenance and repairs."
"However, damage or failures caused by improper maintenance or repairs are not covered under warranty."

So, please don't spread misinformation. Thank you.

15,000 mile service-
Replace Oil (easy enough)
Rotate Tires (easy enough)
Tighten Drive shaft bolt (the bolt has a divet in it -- instead of a cotter pin -- so it can't really back off)
Visually inspect brake linings/drums and brake pads/discs (self-explanatory)

Inspect the following:
Ball joints and dust covers (make sure the dust covers aren't cracked/deteriorated/broken. Grab the tire at the 12 and 6 o'clock position and try to move the tire in and out is a sign the joint it bad.)
Brake lines and hoses (chafing, cracks, leaks, etc.)
Drive shaft boots (check for deterioration/cracks/damage in the boot and the clamps for condition)
Engine Coolant (inspect hoses, connections, and for leak/corrosion/low fluid, etc)
Exhaust pipes and mountings (condition/cracks/etc. There will be rust on the exhaust pipes and muffler, this is not a problem!)
Radiator and condenser (debris/corrosion/damage)
Steering gear box (leakage [I wouldn't think there should be any, since there is no fluid in it])
Steering linkage and boots (free play in steering wheel. Dust boots for deterioration/damage)
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The checks are something almost anyone can do. In fact, the back of the maintenance guide lists exactly what to look for!
You do not have to take it to an authorized Toyota Mechanic to have these checks done to maintain your warranty. If you'd bother to read the stupid maintenance manual, it CLEARLY says "Toyota will not deny a warranty claim solely because you do not have records to show that you maintained your vehicle." Also, "Toyota will not deny a warranty claim solely because you used a service provider other than a Toyota dealership for maintenance and repairs."
"However, damage or failures caused by improper maintenance or repairs are not covered under warranty."

So, please don't spread misinformation. Thank you.

15,000 mile service-
Replace Oil (easy enough)
Rotate Tires (easy enough)
Tighten Drive shaft bolt (the bolt has a divet in it -- instead of a cotter pin -- so it can't really back off)
Visually inspect brake linings/drums and brake pads/discs (self-explanatory)

Inspect the following:
Ball joints and dust covers (make sure the dust covers aren't cracked/deteriorated/broken. Grab the tire at the 12 and 6 o'clock position and try to move the tire in and out is a sign the joint it bad.)
Brake lines and hoses (chafing, cracks, leaks, etc.)
Drive shaft boots (check for deterioration/cracks/damage in the boot and the clamps for condition)
Engine Coolant (inspect hoses, connections, and for leak/corrosion/low fluid, etc)
Exhaust pipes and mountings (condition/cracks/etc. There will be rust on the exhaust pipes and muffler, this is not a problem!)
Radiator and condenser (debris/corrosion/damage)
Steering gear box (leakage [I wouldn't think there should be any, since there is no fluid in it])
Steering linkage and boots (free play in steering wheel. Dust boots for deterioration/damage)
PLEASE DON'T ACT STUPIDLY ON THIS FORUM AND RESPECT OTHER PEOPLES VIEWS ON THIS FORUM EVEN THOUGH YOURS IS WRONG!

Toyota does not recognize YOU as a qualified person to preform these checks yourself so you can keep doing what you being doing but don't ecourage other people to follow your stupid mistakes.

toyota has every right to void your warranty becuase you may argue you you did all the checks yourself but to them you are not qualified to make those checks and to them its as if the checks were never preformed therefore the car is deemed neglected and abused.toyota will not take responsibility for other peoples work.And even if you take them to small claims court in the future you won't have a leg to stand on.My fathers a small claims attorney and he see's these cases everyday.Toyota has been notorious lately for denying warranty claims , putting fault back on the owner(Phil Edmonston 2009 car Lemonaid car guide)
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My local Toyota dealer has always been straight with me. I got their list of recommended services at mileage intervals. You can choose not to have some services done if you want to.

They also check the car for other things not on the list. For example, they lubricate the cables for the remote gas cap and trunk release. I didn't keep up dealer service on my Echo and the remote trunk release broke. Now we just use the trunk key.

I too want to keep service costs down, but a few bucks to the dealer to check and keep things in order is worth something.
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PLEASE DON'T ACT STUPIDLY ON THIS FORUM AND RESPECT OTHER PEOPLES VIEWS ON THIS FORUM EVEN THOUGH YOURS IS WRONG!

Toyota does not recognize YOU as a qualified person to preform these checks yourself so you can keep doing what you being doing but don't ecourage other people to follow your stupid mistakes.

toyota has every right to void your warranty becuase you may argue you you did all the checks yourself but to them you are not qualified to make those checks and to them its as if the checks were never preformed therefore the car is deemed neglected and abused.toyota will not take responsibility for other peoples work.And even if you take them to small claims court in the future you won't have a leg to stand on.My fathers a small claims attorney and he see's these cases everyday.Toyota has been notorious lately for denying warranty claims , putting fault back on the owner(Phil Edmonston 2009 car Lemonaid car guide)
Chances are, if the parts gonna fail, the parts gonna fail.
If YOU find a leaking radiator, what's the difference between YOU finding it, and the dealer finding it? (Besides the cost savings to you doing your own work?)
If your radiator blows without warning, guess what? At 30,000 miles, doesn't matter if the "Toyota dealer" checked it at 15,000, obviously didn't help prevent that.
Toyota said in their maintenance guide clearly that the inspections/work does not have to be done by them. (Therefor, my view is NOT wrong, thank you very much)

If Toyota really not honoring warranty work due to the fact that someone didn't have service/inspection done at a Toyota dealer, seems like the claim needs to be taken out of small claims court, and into big court for Toyota failing to live up to it's word. It's printed right there in black-and-white. No "if's, and's, or but's" about it.

It's not a bad thing to do these small jobs by yourself. I just think people these days are getting too "afraid" of everything for their own good.

*I've replaced my own transmission in my truck! And nearly my entire power steering on that to. And the front steering and suspension components, and half of you on here are scared to change your own oil? HAHA! Just keep handing that money over to the dealer. Ain't gonna make your car last any longer, but it will cost you more!*

I will stop arguing with you now that we've established what the guide says, and that Toyota should be sued if they don't follow what it says as well.
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