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Old 10-11-2009, 08:36 AM   #1 (permalink)
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2010 Corolla finish quality

Okay, so I'm a bit of a paint nut. It has to have shine & gloss & depth !! I understand they moved the Corolla manufacturing plant to Canada instead of Fremont, CA. Well they look terrible !!
Please before you buy one of these be sure you aren't one to wax and polish your car and then compare the shine to other cars, if you are this car will disappoint you big time !

I looked at several 2010 Corolla's this week at the dealer and the paint job looks like it was painted in my garage with a cheap spray-gun. It was definitely single-stage with no clear... Plus a tremendous amount of orange-peel. My 1999 Corolla looked WAY better, as did the 1991 Corolla that my wife bought !!
Glad the 2009 Camry is painted here in America, as the finish on ours looks great !
No offense intended, just opinion...
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You're not the first to experience this and definitely not the last. The Corolla like a lot of Toyotas has experienced somewhat of a decline in quality, I guess paint is just one of the areas that needs to be improved.
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Okay, so I'm a bit of a paint nut. It has to have shine & gloss & depth !! I understand they moved the Corolla manufacturing plant to Canada instead of Fremont, CA. Well they look terrible !!
Please before you buy one of these be sure you aren't one to wax and polish your car and then compare the shine to other cars, if you are this car will disappoint you big time !

I looked at several 2010 Corolla's this week at the dealer and the paint job looks like it was painted in my garage with a cheap spray-gun. It was definitely single-stage with no clear... Plus a tremendous amount of orange-peel. My 1999 Corolla looked WAY better, as did the 1991 Corolla that my wife bought !!
Glad the 2009 Camry is painted here in America, as the finish on ours looks great !
No offense intended, just opinion...
I will hopefully have mine shaved with a fresh coat by the end of year or beginning of 2010 if our shop ever slows down a little. The odd thing about our whites is that the S kit appears to have clear coat on it though.
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Old 10-11-2009, 04:09 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Okay, so I'm a bit of a paint nut. It has to have shine & gloss & depth !! I understand they moved the Corolla manufacturing plant to Canada instead of Fremont, CA. Well they look terrible !!
Please before you buy one of these be sure you aren't one to wax and polish your car and then compare the shine to other cars, if you are this car will disappoint you big time !

I looked at several 2010 Corolla's this week at the dealer and the paint job looks like it was painted in my garage with a cheap spray-gun. It was definitely single-stage with no clear... Plus a tremendous amount of orange-peel. My 1999 Corolla looked WAY better, as did the 1991 Corolla that my wife bought !!
Glad the 2009 Camry is painted here in America, as the finish on ours looks great !
No offense intended, just opinion...
LOL! Way to incite a flame with a baseless geographic claim. Let's see some pics, maybe a few VIN's from these Corolla's to back up your claim. Now I hate to bust your bubble...but USA-spec cars come from 3 sources. NUMMI (Calif), TMMC (Cambridge), or Japan. And the paint manufacturing process is identical regardless of where the Corolla comes from. Besides - comparing materials quality on a Corolla econobox to a mid-size Camry is like comparing a Hyundai Pony to an Elantra. It generates a raised eyebrow...

Funny how the Lexus RX and RAV4 are produced at TMMC as well and they also exceeds NA quality control levels...
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My recent 2010 Corolla has an absolutely perfect paint job

I just got a new 2010 a few weeks ago, and since I am an absolute paint/finish nut I checked it thoroughly. The paint is absolutely flaswless with zero defects of any kind anywhere on the car - I would have refused it otherwise. Here is a shot of the hood, reflecting the tree/sky (and there is no orange-peel anywhere on the car):


I will match this finish with any other, and certainly dont see any quality issue what-so-ever (and I am a detailing fanatic).



It remains to be seen if other lapses in quality show up over time, but the initial fit-and-finish is excellent, and the paint is perfect.

If what you describe is real, I stongly suggest you check out some corollas at a DIFFERENT dealer. There is no way what you describe is normal (or acceptable) finish on anyones new car.
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The paint isn't very good is true, but if you wash and wax your car every so often. Park under shade and in garage, you'll be fine.
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The paint on my bumper has chipped rather easily, but I must say the finish of the paint on my car is excellent. Almost perfect. Maybe the Magnetic Grey is better than some other colors but i was very satisfied, almost no orange peel anywhere. I've gotten quite a few compliments on the paint job, but again the bumper does chip easily. that's the problem with water based paints however.
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Question for you folks. I have an XRS and it looks glossy like searle's XRS does. Except mine is Grey Metallic. Now a friend of mine has a S model with the same paint but next to each other mine is definitely quite a bit more glossy. Does Toyota do something special for the XRS paint jobs?

The paint job on mine is superb. I look very closely at it all the time...its really impressive and looks stunning when clean. It does scratch fairly easily on the other hand.
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Old 10-11-2009, 09:21 PM   #9 (permalink)
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My 2010 Corolla S was built in Fremont, CA and the paint job is flawless on mine as well!! Mine is blue streak metallic, and it looks beautiful. I have yet to find a flaw in the paint and I have gone over it several times already.
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Mine looks great.


Then again, over 50% of it has been repainted from a dear collision.
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I just got a new 2010 a few weeks ago, and since I am an absolute paint/finish nut I checked it thoroughly. The paint is absolutely flaswless with zero defects of any kind anywhere on the car - I would have refused it otherwise. Here is a shot of the hood, reflecting the tree/sky (and there is no orange-peel anywhere on the car):


I will match this finish with any other, and certainly dont see any quality issue what-so-ever (and I am a detailing fanatic).



It remains to be seen if other lapses in quality show up over time, but the initial fit-and-finish is excellent, and the paint is perfect.

If what you describe is real, I stongly suggest you check out some corollas at a DIFFERENT dealer. There is no way what you describe is normal (or acceptable) finish on anyones new car.
Which treatment do you do each week to maintain that great look of the paint?
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I just wash mine every week and use MgGuiires instant detailer after. I also use it every couple of days or whenever the front gets loaded with bugs. It takes them off great.
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show me your VIN before you knock Canadian Build Quality... From what I have read on here, a lot of build quality complaints come from the NUMMI plant. And most of the 2010 corollas at your dealership are most likely from NUMMI.
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show me your VIN before you knock Canadian Build Quality... From what I have read on here, a lot of build quality complaints come from the NUMMI plant. And most of the 2010 corollas at your dealership are most likely from NUMMI.
All the local cars here (Ontario) come from the Ontario plant, of course, so I have not had the chance to compare with others.

However, the original post talked about absolutely terrible paint with lots of orange-peel, and I doubt that could get past ANY toyota plant quality control (or that of any other new car manufacturer). That is why I suggested he look at cars at another dealers. I was wondering if the first dealer had several cars that had been damaged (in shipping? or vandalized?) and then had been quickly and poorly repainted. I know this sort of thing happens from time-to-time on supposedly "new" cars. It shouldn't, but does. Just a thought ...
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Which treatment do you do each week to maintain that great look of the paint?
Good question. Many years ago I used Meguiars, then switched to Mothers, then to Zaino. Last several years I have been back to Meguiars. All are quite good, but I like the breadth of the Meguiars line. In all cases I absolutely believe getting a great shine and depth is much more about preparation than which wax you use.

Initial Brand-New prep. I had asked that the car just be washed, not waxed, as part of dealer prep (to avoid "Dealer-installed-swirls"). After carefully insecting the car at the dealers (much more time checking the paint finish that all the rest of the car combined, my particular fetish) I took it home and immediately gave it the prep it deserved:

1) WASH/CLEAN: did not wash (had been dealer washed that day), but used "Ultimate-Quick-Detailer" to spray and wipe away any surface dust.

2) CLAY: paint felt quite smooth, but not perfect, since some contaminants build up between factory painting and actual customer delivery. So, I used a mild clay-bar and *LOTS* of lubricant spray to go over the entire surface. As expected it picked up some dirt, but not a huge amount. At that point it was absolutely smooth as glass - as every new car should be.

3) CLEANER: Certainly did not need to use any sort of abrasive cleaner compound (ZERO micro-swirls are present)

4) GLAZE/POLISH: even though paint had a nice wet-look depth, I still gave it a coat of glaze/Polish (Meguiars #7) which is oils to give wet-look depth to the paint and is *NOT* any sort of wax or protectant.

Note: you can get Cleaner+Glaze combined, and/or Sealant+Glaze combined, but I prefer to do each one. If you are really strapped for time, most "single-step cleaner/waxes" are a combination of Cleaner+Glaze+Wax or Sealant. Probably gives you 80% of the result with 1/3 the effort.

5) POLYMER SEALANT: Applied a synthetic polymer wax (sealant). I used Meguiars NXT-2.0 by hand (could have used identical #21 by machine but was anal about intial micro-swirls of any kind). Gave one coat, micro-fiber buffed, and left it 1 hour to harden, then gave it a 2nd coat and buff to ensure no spots missed and left it ovenight to cure and fully bond to the paint.

6) FINAL CARNUBA: Most folks stop at #5 above, but I like the extra color depth that Meguiars #26 carnuba wax adds, so I gave it a final coat of that (during spring and summer). Some folks would say that dimishes the hardness of the result, but I love it and in the end beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Give me extra depth over glassy reflection anytime.

On-Going Routine:
DAILY: Check car. If very dusty/dirty then quick spray of Ultimate-Quick-Detailer and wipe. Maybe 1-2 times per week

2+ WEEKS: Check car. If particularly dirty then light hand wash and then wipe dry and then boost the wax with Ultimate-Spraw-Way (similar to UQD above, but only for clean car and has more wax booster in it).

2+ MONTHS: wait for a nice weekend day then hand wash, and then reapply the polish/glaze. Finally, reapply Polymer Sealant (NXT-2.0) and if time permits and mood strikes me, reapply #26 wax on that

SPRING+FALL YEARLY: every sping wash, then clay-bar, then light cleaner. Two coats of Ploymer Sealant (and #26 carnuba wax in spring but just polymer sealant in fall prep for winter).

My "old" 96-Camaro-SS had 315,000 KMs (many hard race-track miles, and was driven daily throughout the Canadian winters) and on the weekend I sold it I still had 2 different folks come up to me in parking lots and tell me how great it looked. Amazing what a little tender-loving-care will do:


PS: Given all the above, you can be sure when I say that my new Corolla had a perfect paint finish that it is no overstatement. Perfect quality control on the factory paint job.
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