Hey everyone, I'm new to owning a Toyota. I just financed a 2010 black Toyota corolla S with 36 miles on it from a local dealership after i decided my last car was pretty much a money pit (2001 expedition)...blew the head gaskets, then after that was fixed developed a bad knock...anyhow i just decided i was overdue for a new car. Its a 5 speed manual and at highway speeds (65-70mph) ive noticed the rpms are bit high...like around 3grand. Is that normal? Just seemed really high to me, I really think this car would do great with a 6 speed. Also is the corolla governed? I was on a long stretch of road and i quickly got to 110ish with no sign of a governor kicking in...?
Great site by the way!
I'll post some pictures probably on my day off tomorrow. I want to get it nice and clean again first
seems about right. i just got my corolla recently myself coming from a v6, its a big change. i was thinking the same thing too when i got it but then again you have to take into consideration that the corolla has a small engine, therefore its going to have a higher rpm at higher speeds.
As already said, that is about right. I just made the swap over as well. Its nice to get 36mpg when you are used to 12mpg! I feel lost not having to make a trip to the gas pump every three days haha
Hey everyone, I'm new to owning a Toyota. I just financed a 2010 black Toyota corolla S with 36 miles on it from a local dealership after i decided my last car was pretty much a money pit (2001 expedition)...blew the head gaskets, then after that was fixed developed a bad knock...anyhow i just decided i was overdue for a new car. Its a 5 speed manual and at highway speeds (65-70mph) ive noticed the rpms are bit high...like around 3grand. Is that normal? Just seemed really high to me, I really think this car would do great with a 6 speed. Also is the corolla governed? I was on a long stretch of road and i quickly got to 110ish with no sign of a governor kicking in...?
Great site by the way!
I'll post some pictures probably on my day off tomorrow. I want to get it nice and clean again first
to TN.
I've got 2 Corolla's both with a 5M, a 94 & an 09 & they both run about 3K rpm's @ 70 mph.
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Hey everyone, I'm new to owning a Toyota. I just financed a 2010 black Toyota corolla S with 36 miles on it from a local dealership after i decided my last car was pretty much a money pit (2001 expedition)...blew the head gaskets, then after that was fixed developed a bad knock...anyhow i just decided i was overdue for a new car. Its a 5 speed manual and at highway speeds (65-70mph) ive noticed the rpms are bit high...like around 3grand. Is that normal? Just seemed really high to me, I really think this car would do great with a 6 speed. Also is the corolla governed? I was on a long stretch of road and i quickly got to 110ish with no sign of a governor kicking in...?
Great site by the way!
I'll post some pictures probably on my day off tomorrow. I want to get it nice and clean again first
I agree a 6th gear would be amazing! But yes that is perfectly normal. At 115 my car shuts off Of course much more and you'd be on the red line
I've got 2 Corolla's both with a 5M, a 94 & an 09 & they both run about 3K rpm's @ 70 mph.
slightly off topic...
SuperchargedMR2 i saw your fuel consumption chart on fuelly.com... and .. jeez ... how do you get such good mileage compared to the majority of the other (non-xrs) corollas?
i see everyone hovering over above around 25-30mpg... and then out of nowhere i see you at 36mpg...
it doesnt look like much of a difference because there are so many numbers. but when i change it to Metric units (Liters/100km, cuz im from Canada ) everybody is sitting around 7.2 - 9.0L/100km ... which looks like a huge increase compared to your 6.5L/100km
are you cheating and putting in incorrect info? j/k
what gives? i assume you drive a lot of highway. just want to know what speed you cruise at.... or what you have done to achieve this...
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seems about right. i just got my corolla recently myself coming from a v6, its a big change. i was thinking the same thing too when i got it but then again you have to take into consideration that the corolla has a small engine, therefore its going to have a higher rpm at higher speeds.
Not to be an ass, but what does having a bigger engine have to do with speed/RPM ratio? Please explain.
Hey everyone, I'm new to owning a Toyota. I just financed a 2010 black Toyota corolla S with 36 miles on it from a local dealership after i decided my last car was pretty much a money pit (2001 expedition)...blew the head gaskets, then after that was fixed developed a bad knock...anyhow i just decided i was overdue for a new car. Its a 5 speed manual and at highway speeds (65-70mph) ive noticed the rpms are bit high...like around 3grand. Is that normal? Just seemed really high to me, I really think this car would do great with a 6 speed. Also is the corolla governed? I was on a long stretch of road and i quickly got to 110ish with no sign of a governor kicking in...?
Great site by the way!
I'll post some pictures probably on my day off tomorrow. I want to get it nice and clean again first
According to Car and Driver magazine (online test sheet), the governor kicks in @ 115mph.
Not to be an ass, but what does having a bigger engine have to do with speed/RPM ratio? Please explain.
Bigger engine displacement requires less rpm to bring the car up to speed when compare to small engine.
if both of the cars are doing 100km/h....1.8L engine may requires 2700rpm engine speed to run to that speed...but on the other hand the 3.5L v6 may only need 2300rpm.
Simple example: if 2 runners run in a 100m dash event....the one with shorter legs have to run twice as fast to catch the guy with longer legs. (keeping everything constant and they both have the same physical ability)
Bigger engine displacement requires less rpm to bring the car up to speed when compare to small engine.
if both of the cars are doing 100km/h....1.8L engine may requires 2700rpm engine speed to run to that speed...but on the other hand the 3.5L v6 may only need 2300rpm.
Simple example: if 2 runners run in a 100m dash event....the one with shorter legs have to run twice as fast to catch the guy with longer legs. (keeping everything constant and they both have the same physical ability)
Thanks for your respond.
I am still confused, especially with your example. The way I see it, having shorter/longer legs is not a correct analogy to having smaller/bigger engines. Having a bigger engine is more like having bigger muscles rather than having longer legs.
What I was trying to ask was that if everything else were the same (crankshaft, gear ratio, etc.), I do not understand how having a bigger engine can affect the speed/RPM ratio.
3kRPM in a 1.8L and 3k RPM in a 2.4L both are spinning at the same RATE -- at 3k RPM!! If crankshaft, gear ratio, wheel+tire size (and possibly others that I don't know as I am a newb at this), they should come out to the same speed.
A simple example would be:
Two runners. Both have same stride + leg lengths. They are running at the same speed.
From this information, does it not assume that they have the same turnover rate? Their power/physical fitness does not play a part at all in determining the relationship between steps taken per minute versus how fast the runners are moving.
Yes, having a bigger engine will accelerate you faster. HOWEVER, having a bigger engine does not mean that that car can go faster at the same RPM as another car with smaller engine.
Someone PLEASE confirm my thinking or slap me silly for being utterly wrong (and confusing you). This is rather frustrating.
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SuperchargedMR2 i saw your fuel consumption chart on fuelly.com... and .. jeez ... how do you get such good mileage compared to the majority of the other (non-xrs) corollas?
i see everyone hovering over above around 25-30mpg... and then out of nowhere i see you at 36mpg...
it doesnt look like much of a difference because there are so many numbers. but when i change it to Metric units (Liters/100km, cuz im from Canada ) everybody is sitting around 7.2 - 9.0L/100km ... which looks like a huge increase compared to your 6.5L/100km
are you cheating and putting in incorrect info? j/k
what gives? i assume you drive a lot of highway. just want to know what speed you cruise at.... or what you have done to achieve this...
Sorry about the off topic answer to this off topic question!
I do a fair amount of HWY, about 50-60%, at 55-60 mph which I get very good mpg. I don't try to hot dog it too much. I don't feel like I do anything special & no, I don't play with the #'s. This past weekend I had a long drive of almost 500 miles with speeds from 68-75 mph & some 90 mph blasts & I got 34 mpg on that leg. My worst tank was around 31 mpg I think & my best was around 40 mpg. Remember though that I have the 1.8L & not the 2.4L as it's hard to tell what some people have on Fuelly. Did you look at my other cars too?
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I am still confused, especially with your example. The way I see it, having shorter/longer legs is not a correct analogy to having smaller/bigger engines. Having a bigger engine is more like having bigger muscles rather than having longer legs.
What I was trying to ask was that if everything else were the same (crankshaft, gear ratio, etc.), I do not understand how having a bigger engine can affect the speed/RPM ratio.
3kRPM in a 1.8L and 3k RPM in a 2.4L both are spinning at the same RATE -- at 3k RPM!! If crankshaft, gear ratio, wheel+tire size (and possibly others that I don't know as I am a newb at this), they should come out to the same speed.
A simple example would be:
Two runners. Both have same stride + leg lengths. They are running at the same speed.
From this information, does it not assume that they have the same turnover rate? Their power/physical fitness does not play a part at all in determining the relationship between steps taken per minute versus how fast the runners are moving.
Yes, having a bigger engine will accelerate you faster. HOWEVER, having a bigger engine does not mean that that car can go faster at the same RPM as another car with smaller engine.
Someone PLEASE confirm my thinking or slap me silly for being utterly wrong (and confusing you). This is rather frustrating.
First off, bigger engine displacement typically will give you more power. So if both of the engine is running at the same RPM, the bigger displacement engine will provide you with more power, right? So if the 1.8L is running 100km/h with 2700rpm, then 2700rpm on the 2.4L will provide you with more power, perhaps able to push you to higher speed, like 120km/h. So if both of the engines are running at 100km/h, the bigger displacement engine will be able to achieve that speed with a lower rpm than the 1.8L. Make sense?
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