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Old 03-25-2010, 12:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Idle will not go higher than 500rpm.

Before I noticed my car would alternate its idle, sometimes it would be 500 sometimes 1000 or just a little bellow 1000. For some reason now, it does not idle more than 500 unless I turn my A/C on. It did not do that before. When I put the car in park it goes back to about a 1000 rpm and the car sounds and feels just right. As soon as I put it into drive it shakes and it sounds like a tractor. What is going on with my car? Could my rings be going out?
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Old 03-25-2010, 01:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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No i highly doubt its your rings. It might be your belt. It might not be tight enough. I got a tsb done on my car for the belt when i did the pedal recall. My belt was making a loud noise while driving and when i started the car it would squeal. Now its all good.
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No i highly doubt its your rings. It might be your belt. It might not be tight enough. I got a tsb done on my car for the belt when i did the pedal recall. My belt was making a loud noise while driving and when i started the car it would squeal. Now its all good.
Today I was driving my car almost died at the light. It went down all the way to about 200-300rpms started to shake really bad. I pulled into a Toyota dealer, and told them that the idle was not acting right. They did not even have a mechanic look at it. They just asked if the check engine light was on. What could this be? I am sure its not the belt, since it makes no noise, I popped the hood and looked at it, did not look bad, however the whole engine was shaking really bad.
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Is your Corolla still under warranty?
If so, the dealer should rectify the problem.
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Today I was driving my car almost died at the light. It went down all the way to about 200-300rpms started to shake really bad. I pulled into a Toyota dealer, and told them that the idle was not acting right. They did not even have a mechanic look at it. They just asked if the check engine light was on. What could this be? I am sure its not the belt, since it makes no noise, I popped the hood and looked at it, did not look bad, however the whole engine was shaking really bad.
To me it sounds like a bad tank of gas. May be VERY poor quality fuel, don't go back to that gas station. Try tossing in some Fuel Cleaner/treatment and see if it fixes the problem.

Rough Idle is often caused by dirty gas, or improperly mixed gas.
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Is your Corolla still under warranty?
If so, the dealer should rectify the problem.
The car is still under warranty, its at 28,000 miles. I took it in today and told them of the issue, after they printed all the paper work and it was time to sign, they wanted to charge me $95 for diagnostic so I declined. The service guy told me that it could be carbon build up due to bad fuel, which I was responsible for. To me its a bit unreasonable, since it is gas I put into the car not water or diesel, so if the car gets clogged up with carbon and one of the valves break due to sludge, I would be responsible for the engine replacement? Am I supposed to go around every gas station testing their fuel making sure its good enough, or my Toyota is gonna break? Seriously they might as well make a Toyota gas station, I mean WTF? Does it say anywhere on Toyota website, manual, anywhere to fill up only using Shell and not 76. They tell you what oil grade to use. Again how the hell I am responsible to pay $95 to have them check out and tell me that I was buying bad quality fuel. This is straight up ridicules, &$^% I cant even explain how much I hate Toyota by now.
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To me it sounds like a bad tank of gas. May be VERY poor quality fuel, don't go back to that gas station. Try tossing in some Fuel Cleaner/treatment and see if it fixes the problem.

Rough Idle is often caused by dirty gas, or improperly mixed gas.
You might be right, at least that's also what Toyota told me. I asked them about using some fuel treatment, they told me that if I did that I would have to use it every time I fill up? Any recommendations?
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The service guy told me that it could be carbon build up due to bad fuel, which I was responsible for. To me its a bit unreasonable, since it is gas I put into the car not water or diesel, so if the car gets clogged up with carbon and one of the valves break due to sludge, I would be responsible for the engine replacement?
You are responsible for putting quality gasoline in your vehicle.

In the event of poor quality gasoline, it is your responsibilty to take this up with the gas station, not Toyota.

This is why I use the same 2 stations for local refueling and save most reciepts (also to log them into fuelly...). Pick a station and use it, don't play station roulette to save a penny per gallon.
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You are responsible for putting quality gasoline in your vehicle.

In the event of poor quality gasoline, it is your responsibilty to take this up with the gas station, not Toyota.

This is why I use the same 2 stations for local refueling and save most reciepts (also to log them into fuelly...). Pick a station and use it, don't play station roulette to save a penny per gallon.
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Hypothetical-

If you put brake fluid (later found out to be bad) in your car yourself, and then your car failed to stop and got hit, would you blame the car or the brake fluid? I would say the car did what it could with what it had to work with, the brake fluid is at fault. Then, would you blame the car manufacturer or the brake fluid manufacturer?

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I do feel for ya, sounds stupid and its a poor situation, but I feel they are not in the wrong. Definitely look into those fuel treatments, perhaps they can fix the problem. However, you could be throwing your money away on those too if you haven't allowed a diagnostic to find out what the problem is. Just educated guesses at this point.
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You might be right, at least that's also what Toyota told me. I asked them about using some fuel treatment, they told me that if I did that I would have to use it every time I fill up? Any recommendations?
You would only have to use the fuel treatment when you use their gas.

I would personally change gas stations, and run a few tanks on higher octane (89 or 91), and then go to a trusted reputable Shell, Chevron, or Sunoco and buy gas from there.

Where ever you were filling up before was putting cheap chemicals in their gas.

I had a local gas station near my house get busted for doing that. Many law suits and replacement parts or cars resulted from it.
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Thanks everyone for the input. I really don't want to come off as one of those guys who complains about a car and just wines too much. I use toyotanation to get an insight on experiences other drives had, that might be the same as mine. To also share my own experience with others who are asking the same. To tell you the truth, yes I am disappointed with my purchase, and will not purchase a new toyota again, but it is what it is. I leased it to drive it from school, to work and back home. Before I got my Corolla I had a crown Victoria that spun a bearing, and I rebuilt the whole engine, taking me a whole month of nothing but sleeping, eating and rebuilding. I rebuilt it, and sold it. Then used that money to put a down payment on the corolla, I knew I wanted a toyota since they were known for good customer service, and quality.
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