So the 09 Corolla with only 33000 miles, and it starts to shudder in first when the clutch is warm. At around 2k(ish) rpms. Took it to the dealer and they said it is a hot spot on the clutch disc most likely and I would have to pay for it since the warranty doesn't cover this. I have them do the reapair and sure enough they said it is a hot spot and I am out 1000 for the stupid clutch. I am a girl and have been driving stick for over 13 years and really drive like an old man, so how is this possible? Is hot spots only caused by my driving or is there another problem? I think I am going to grab the parts and take it to another place and see if they can see the "hot spots". what do you guys think. Thanks
So the 09 Corolla with only 33000 miles, and it starts to shudder in first when the clutch is warm. At around 2k(ish) rpms. Took it to the dealer and they said it is a hot spot on the clutch disc most likely and I would have to pay for it since the warranty doesn't cover this. I have them do the reapair and sure enough they said it is a hot spot and I am out 1000 for the stupid clutch. I am a girl and have been driving stick for over 13 years and really drive like an old man, so how is this possible? Is hot spots only caused by my driving or is there another problem? I think I am going to grab the parts and take it to another place and see if they can see the "hot spots". what do you guys think. Thanks
More than likely, you or someone caused the clutch damage. You could take the disc for a second opinion to make you feel better (you can be sure then that the dealer isn't screwing you over). I'm not saying that you caused the damage, but "driving like an old man" doesn't mean anything. You can still easily burn a clutch "driving like an old man". Are you the original owner? Loan the car to someone? How many miles on it when you got it? Even if you got it new, how many miles on it when you got it?
i would think driving like an old man would burn the clutch more than driving like a 18year old. well thats from what ive seen. no offense to anyone that thinks theyre an old man!
Argh, ok, so an update, I got the clutch replaced and now I am at 45000 miles and it is doing it again. This time I have been VERY contentious of how I drive and making sure not rest my foot on the pedal. I am the original owner and this sucks. I am the only one who drives it.
Any idea what it could be? I have been driving clutch for over 15 years and never had a problem like this.
I'm not sure why the clutch wasn't covered at only 33k miles. I wonder if something may be wrong with the pressure plate that could be causing the problem. I drive like an old man since I am an old man of 48 years! I'm not sure of what that means though since I drive the same as I did 25 years ago.
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Argh, ok, so an update, I got the clutch replaced and now I am at 45000 miles and it is doing it again. This time I have been VERY contentious of how I drive and making sure not rest my foot on the pedal. I am the original owner and this sucks. I am the only one who drives it.
Any idea what it could be? I have been driving clutch for over 15 years and never had a problem like this.
What is it doing exactly? Are you leaving the pedal half pressed coming up to lights etc? I don't know that transmission but I know that can damage some synchros in other transmissions. Really is a mystery. Maybe time for an auto?
I'm not sure why the clutch wasn't covered at only 33k miles. I wonder if something may be wrong with the pressure plate that could be causing the problem. I drive like an old man since I am an old man of 48 years! I'm not sure of what that means though since I drive the same as I did 25 years ago.
What I mean by old man is that I drive how a normal citizen should drive. Not like a teenager who is either learning how to drive clutch or thinks they are in Nascar. When I took the car in they said it was my fault that the clutch wore out (hot spots) so I had to pay. After that I was very cautious on how I drove and there is no way I did anything,
(e.g. foot resting on clutch pedal at anytime other than shifting)
As for the pressure plate, this would be the second one that has the problems, is there anything in the car that could be causing this???
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What is it doing exactly? Are you leaving the pedal half pressed coming up to lights etc? I don't know that transmission but I know that can damage some synchros in other transmissions. Really is a mystery. Maybe time for an auto?
If you look at my first post in November, it is the shuddering symptoms all over again. This time very light but I have only put 12,000 miles on the clutch and it only seems to get worse.
I never rest my foot on the pedal (and have paid attention since the new clutch was put in)
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If the problem continues than I would try an aftermarket clutch to see if that would help. I've got 28k miles on my MT & I've not heard of this issue with anyone else. I wasn't sure if they replaced the pressure plate when they changed it out the first time. I would also think that there would be some kind of warranty with this happening the 2nd time in such a short span. I would check with several dealers & contact Toyota customer service.
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If the problem continues than I would try an aftermarket clutch to see if that would help. I've got 28k miles on my MT & I've not heard of this issue with anyone else. I wasn't sure if they replaced the pressure plate when they changed it out the first time. I would also think that there would be some kind of warranty with this happening the 2nd time in such a short span. I would check with several dealers & contact Toyota customer service.
Thank you for the quick response and the suggestion. I will do that on the 5th (seeing how everything is closed till then) Thanks again
Thank you for the quick response and the suggestion. I will do that on the 5th (seeing how everything is closed till then) Thanks again
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Argh, ok, so an update, I got the clutch replaced and now I am at 45000 miles and it is doing it again. This time I have been VERY contentious of how I drive and making sure not rest my foot on the pedal. I am the original owner and this sucks. I am the only one who drives it.
Any idea what it could be? I have been driving clutch for over 15 years and never had a problem like this.
Hi, Im a master tech at a dealer up in CONN and i fail to see that you burned though a clutch that fast after driving for 15 years. I feel that the clutch pedal free-play was not adjusted right from the factory and the dealer you went to failed to do this simple quick measurement. and since they just put a new clutch in with the same pedal free play it's just gonna happen again.
clutch pedal free-play is the distance the clutch pedal will move freely before disengagement. Too much free play and the clutch will not fully disengage and you might hear a slight grind or hard shifting. Too little free play and the clutch will be slightly disengaged causing heat checking or hot spots.
If you feel up to it measure it yourself when you get the chance. it might have the measurement in the owners manual. what you do it you place a ruler on the flat edge of the floor where the clutch meets the carpet and hold the ruler next to the pedal. NEXT slightly push on the pedal with your hand and see how far the pedal travels before it starts to disengage. if it is little free play then it would defiantly cause the clutch to wear faster.
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Interesting. I'm at 20k KM and have noticed this same shudder or hesitation when engaging the clutch into 1st. But it's inconsistent and infrequent so I've always chalked it up to not giving it enough gas following a change in driving. (ie: hot engine following highway driving returning to slow city stop-and-go...or cold start).
Will pay more attention to this in the future. tks!
mine will grind sometimes putting it into reverse even if the clutch is all the way down. It does it every time if I am rolling back a little. Maybe mine is off adjustment too
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Actually most MT's will periodically grind into reverse - particularly during first shift post-startup. Something to do with the syncros not in alignment at the time you're shifting. Believe the solution is if shifter doesn't easily go into gear, release and repress the clutch and try again.
Have seen this with every manual I've had...95civic, 00celica, 05corolla, 09corolla, 10corolla.
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mine will grind sometimes putting it into reverse even if the clutch is all the way down. It does it every time if I am rolling back a little. Maybe mine is off adjustment too
Actually that is common with any movement of the car. The type of gear that reverse is called a spur gear in which the teeth are cut straight while the forward gears are cut at angles which are called helical gears which make it easier for the transmission to smoothly shift gears.
To render the grinding it is advised for you to go to 4th gear FIRST then go to reverse. this slows the transmission down especially when first/ cold start up where the idle is high than normal.
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I'm not sure of what that means though since I drive the same as I did 25 years ago. 
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