Limited slip differential

[ploud]

have anyone here done the TRD limited slip differential on their corolla? or tried the phantom grip? i can not seem to find any info on the search list or on-line queries. i believe that the TRD is for the manual transmission. i was hoping to find something for the 2.4 XRS 5 speed sequential automatic. if you have any information please link it on the thread. please don't post things unless you have prior knowledge that it works.

I have asked Jeff Lang for info for both automatic and manual trans-axle but i didn't see anything for the manual to compare so I'm not quite sure if its the same differential or even the same bolt pattern. i also went to the site who makes the LSD for TRD but no info. I checked phantom grip but might have to wait for business hours to find out if they make one for 2010 corolla.

thanks and please keep the tread on topic.

[kniterider09]

the trd lsd is made by quaife.

http://www.quaife.co.uk/shop/search/...24,621,409,429

[ploud]

you do understand that the auto transmission on 2.4 is a
U250E not a e350 or e351

[Pavin]

This perks my interest how exactly would the car benefit with an upgraded LSD? Also if there's one for the auto xrs I'm assuming there might be one for the S?

[PDA_86]

I looked around google about this Phantom grip thing.

http://shop.phantomgrip.com/products.php?product=ALL-YEARS-TOYOTA-COROLLA-(NOTE%3A-FWD)

Now it said it's for all FWD Corolla's in ALL years. Will that work for us? Plus it said something about upgraded springs needed. But what if we have like TRD's or other aftermarket brand of springs already installed? I wonder if it would be compatible....

[pengin978]

i was thinking about phantom grip, but i think the tunning springs are the springs that phantom grip will need to be finely compressed to the right spec.

but if its lowering springs i'm down!

[PDA_86]

Yeah... Price is pretty well on my end for this too. But I would kinda miss the stiffness from my TRD springs though if that is neccessary.

[ploud]

I'm not sure how accurate this info i read but they stated that the phantom grip was good for drag strip since you can keep both wheels going but it was not good for daily driving since it will wear out both tires more. i was more looking for limited slip for curves and what i get out of the phantom grip is it might not be the right thing for the application.

[2zr-ge]

trd dosent make a lsd for an auto xrs.

[johngenx2]

Is anyone having traction problems with their 132hp Corolla? I think new tires would be in order, way ahead of an LSD.

[thestone11]

Originally Posted by johngenx2

Is anyone having traction problems with their 132hp Corolla? I think new tires would be in order, way ahead of an LSD.

+1

For some reason people always count out tires....they are the only thing that make contact to the ground....so.....think again......

My theory:

Count out all season tires and use a set of summer and a set winter tires.......

Summer time = Extreme performance summer tires like the Potenza RE-11, Advan AD08, Dunlop Direzza Z1....etc

Winter time = If your place will drop below 7C degrees, pls buy a set of winter tires, even though your place doesn't get snow. Winter tires not only provide better snow traction. It is the different rubber compound that will provide elasticity to the rubber even under extreme cold temperature, thus gives u better grip on the road.

There are different sway bars, strut braces, lowering springs, coilovers that can be installed to improve handling. Do all of the above and see how your car handle before thinking LSD. And to be honest, LSD on a front wheel drive car is not as effective as on a RWD/AWD car.

[ploud]

OK not trying to sound harsh or trying to be rude but this is how i feel about this.

Do most of you that post on this thread actually read the topic completely before chiming in your 2 cents?

this thread has noting to do about loosing traction or getting better tires. we are not discussing about shocks, sway bars or such items. we are not talking about driving on winter or ice. we are specifically talking about where we can find a LSD that will work for an auto tranny.

We already established that the TRD LSD is for 5 speed manuals no point of saying TRD don't make one for auto.

Saying things like LSD is not as effective on front wheel drive compared to rear wheel or AWD is a bit ignorant.

Do most of you even understand how LSD works and how many different types are available for different applications there are?

You do understand Toyota already have a pseudo limited slip with the use of VSC and Trac control on the corolla without the TRD diff. which works by using the ABS to control your slipping tires by reducing power. you loose power and it hammers you until you take your foot of the gas. not much fun when it goes of during curvy driving.

A Torque Biasing Differential in a front wheel drive car can put down power on a twisty road, and reduces torque steer by driving fast around sharp corners while on full throttle. this type of LSD allows the front axles to spin like an open differentials while proving better traction because it allows the two tires to spin in different speeds to reduce the chance of plow effect that you would get if you had a locked diff. I know you can not drift with a front wheel drive but you can still push through if you know how to drive. I don't care how good your tires are when you loose grip your not going to gain it back unless you either stop or reduce power especially with an open diff. you have a better chance keeping tire grip when you have a true LSD, which makes it fun to drive front wheel drives especially when there is no VSC/Trac.

if you just like to post random stuff that has no bearing to the topic we have general chat for you to write on.

thank you and stay on topic, keep your opinion to yourself if its not going to help us to find a LSD that will work on the auto tranny because you are just a distraction and cluttering the thread. this is not meant to hurt your feelings

[PDA_86]

Ah, Thank you very much, ploud, for a providing some information about the LSD. I was really wondering how LSD would work for a FF, cuz I thought the point was prevent the car from "oversteering". Seeing how we FF are supposed to often "understeer", I never could get an idea how the LSD could help from us from "oversteering".

Is it just me, that the LSD built for our cars seem pretty expensive? Like, majority of friends tell me that an LSD for thier cars are around $500, when in TRDsparks.com, it was listed for $1099, plus another $132 for LSD installation kit?I wonder if there are any other alternate methods...

[pengin978]

trd lsd is a helical lsd, it's for all day and curvy roads because it distribute power where its needed.

Phantom grip lsd is more for drag racing because it distribute power to both wheel all the time with no adjustment to distribution when needed.

if you like curvy roads and more power to the floor when cornering, should go with quaife lsd (trd)
Drag or going straight on the highway, phantom grip.

[tu_culo]

Just got this from there website!

Phantom Grips precision cut disc plates function as a disc-type limited slip in cornering and braking. Disc plates exert equal load against spider gears using spring pressure to control the amount of slippage at the wheels. Helping to accelerate quicker, while sustaining higher speeds through corners.

Phantom Grip offers 100% locking in hard acceleration. When torque is applied through acceleration the disc plates pivot, locking spiders, causing both wheels to exert equal power to the road, providing less torque steer than an ordinary differential. Although seemingly simple, the 'Phantom Grip design' offers as much maximum traction as other limited slips.

I don't see why it wouldn't work!