Replace Tires To Lesson Road Noise?

[SuperchargedMR2]

Originally Posted by dman777

What about the Michelin Primacy MXV4 Tires? Their pretty pricey but tire rack review on them placed them first in choice for comfort and noise.

Would I be able to sell the OEM tires on my 2013 Corolla S with a 100 miles on them for a good price? Or would no one want them?

I've seen many people trade brand new tires in at their local ATC/DT store for a very good credit.

Originally Posted by r1-superstar

These are EXCELLENT tires!!! I highly recommend them especially in the snow. Get them at Costco.

If you drive in snow then get a winter tire. Even the best all-season tire is no where near as good as a winter tire in the snow.

[r1-superstar]

Originally Posted by SuperchargedMR2

If you drive in snow then get a winter tire. Even the best all-season tire is no where near as good as a winter tire in the snow.

Many ALL Seasons are Great in the snow. So good that they don't have to be swapped out. Now if I had two sets of rims, then I would see how installing Summer/Winter tires could be a benefit. but nahh......

[SuperchargedMR2]

Originally Posted by r1-superstar

Many ALL Seasons are Great in the snow. So good that they don't have to be swapped out. Now if I had two sets of rims, then I would see how installing Summer/Winter tires could be a benefit. but nahh......

You need to follow up on that. Tirerack among others has done a lot of testing showing that all-season tires don't come close to a winter tire in snow, ice, slush & below 45F. An all-season tire is a compromise of performance which is fine for a mild climate. Think of them as a jack of all trades, master of none tire. Just like they will never out perform a summer tire either. For areas that experience weather below 45F with snow & ice an all-season tire will be terrible compared to a winter tire. Here is a brief summary from a Tirerack test.

All-Season vs. Winter

The acceleration comparison measured the tires' ability to provide traction when accelerating as quickly as possible in a straight line with the vehicle's Traction Control operating. With the two cars sitting at the line, we did a countdown to start both drivers and compared the time it took for their vehicles to accelerate 200 feet. Including the drivers' reaction time, the winter tire equipped car crossed the finish line in just over 8 seconds, while the all-season tire equipped car completed its run in 11 seconds, or about three seconds later. While we don't recommend trying to accelerate as quickly as possible in snow when driving on the street, these results show how much more traction winter / snow tires can provide when accelerating from a stop.

The braking comparison measured the tires' ability to provide traction during an ABS-assisted panic stop in a straight line. We drove the two cars side-by-side at a speed of 30 mph, gave both drivers a braking signal at the prescribed mark and compared the distances it took them to come to a complete stop. The winter tire equipped car stopped in a distance of about 59 feet, while the all-season tire equipped car took an additional two car lengths, or about 30 more feet. A 30-foot difference in stopping distance during a panic stop at 30 mph on a snow-packed road is more than enough to determine whether it's a near miss or an accident!

The cornering comparison measured the tires' ability to provide traction during a 90-degree left-hand corner. We drove the two cars nose-to-tail beginning at 15 mph and increased the speeds on successive runs. When we attempted to drive through the corner at 25 mph, only the winter tire equipped car was able to complete it, while the all-season tire equipped car slid off the road. Even though the all-season equipped car was equipped with Dynamic Stability Control, the DSC could not overcome the laws of physics when the tires' traction limit was exceeded.

Conclusion

While all-season tires may provide enough wintertime traction for drivers in areas of the country that only receive occasional light snow, Tire Rack feels there isn't a viable alternative to dedicated winter / snow tires if drivers expect to encounter deep or frequent slush, snow or ice.

Tires are often the difference between wintertime gripping and white knuckle slipping, and only matched sets of four will do!

[dman777]

I live in Austin, Texas where it might snow for one day in 5 years So, my goal is to get the Camery luxury quite ride on my Corolla S with maybe some Michelin Primacy MXV4 Tires.

[SuperchargedMR2]

Originally Posted by dman777

I live in Austin, Texas where it might snow for one day in 5 years So, my goal is to get the Camery luxury quite ride on my Corolla S with maybe some Michelin Primacy MXV4 Tires.

And that is why I said if you live in a mild area like that you will be fine with an all-season tire. Austin doesn't qualify as a location that sees snow, ice, slush & below 45F weather. But many people that do live in these areas falsely believe that an all-season tire can perform as well as a winter tire when nothing can be farther from the truth. I feel it's important to set the facts straight when lies are being mentioned.

r1-superstar lives in Utah which does see these conditions depending on where in the state he lives.

[willyb0b]

Originally Posted by Redfisher

Michelin Defenders are the best, so i have been told.

I purchased a used 2010 corolla in november and it came with michelin defenders, almost brand new, and while they are super quiet on the road and handling is good, they are terrible in both light and heavy snow

[willyb0b]

Originally Posted by dman777

I live in Austin, Texas where it might snow for one day in 5 years So, my goal is to get the Camery luxury quite ride on my Corolla S with maybe some Michelin Primacy MXV4 Tires.

i have these on my Rx350 and they are very nice, very smooth, and very quiet!

[SuperchargedMR2]

Originally Posted by willyb0b

I purchased a used 2010 corolla in november and it came with michelin defenders, almost brand new, and while they are super quiet on the road and handling is good, they are terrible in both light and heavy snow

Again, any all-season tire sucks in the snow.

[Redfisher]

Originally Posted by willyb0b

I purchased a used 2010 corolla in november and it came with michelin defenders, almost brand new, and while they are super quiet on the road and handling is good, they are terrible in both light and heavy snow

Thanks for the info my friend.

[willyb0b]

Originally Posted by SuperchargedMR2

Again, any all-season tire sucks in the snow.

yes they do, but a manual trans and careful driving make it do-able

i will get mileage out of these before i upgrade

[cabur]

Originally Posted by dman777

I live in Austin, Texas where it might snow for one day in 5 years So, my goal is to get the Camery luxury quite ride on my Corolla S with maybe some Michelin Primacy MXV4 Tires.

That was my first choice. Defender was my second. Considered Nokian, Finally bought YK 580 with substantial savings and happy with them.

I've always use all season tires. It's better than summer ones.
I live in the city, my home is on a bus route, always plough and sanded. On days with heavy snow I'll take public transport. Bus or Skytrain. Vancouver with snow is a madhouse for it's hilly roads and bridges and crazy drivers once stuck will leave their car in middle of the road.

[SuperchargedMR2]

There are many hills that I couldn't get up or down without winter tires. Sometimes even with winter tires it can be a little wild. Just getting up the hill today was very slick as the snow was wet & slushy which made it super slick, but make it I did! There would have been no chance with all-season tires. I don't live in a location that allows me to use public transportation either so I always need to be prepared for any weather condition.

[thefalls]

Love this weather! And on top of that a Corolla parked right there!

[got-rice]

Originally Posted by SuperchargedMR2

There are many hills that I couldn't get up or down without winter tires. Sometimes even with winter tires it can be a little wild. Just getting up the hill today was very slick as the snow was wet & slushy which made it super slick, but make it I did! There would have been no chance with all-season tires. I don't live in a location that allows me to use public transportation either so I always need to be prepared for any weather condition.

it never gets that snowy in California...i remember being in Portland 7 years ago, and damn it was COLD.

[Andriy242]

Oh Man OKAY people need to know that Yes All Season Tires are not as good as Winter tires. But what are winter tires better for. Taking off the line in winter like a complete retard? Or going around the corner as fast as you can hoping you won't slip out?

Take it from a person who Lives in CANADA, and in Edmonton where it always gets as cold as -30 to -40 and we have Feet of snow not centimeters of snow which melts in a day or two.

I have been running all seasons for 4 years in this weather and never had a need for winter tires.

You wanna know how to drive in winter?

1. Slow down
2. Keep your distance
3. Be gentle on the throttle
4. Brake in advance

I am sure those 4 tips will get you through any winter with All-season tires without even thinking of getting winter tires.


This subject is like MAC VS PC. Very touchy and people with winter tires will always say that you can't live with out them.