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On Sat, 04 Nov 2006 22:37:05 +0000, Roadrunner Newsgroup wrote:
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> I don't agree in this case with my 2005 Camry Mike. Random fails happen on
> all cars due to the probabilities, however, loose seat tracks were a problem
> on many Camry's in the same as my 2001 vintage according to my dealer. Now I
> have the same problem with my 2005. That's not a random problem, that's
> sloppy quality and design. Sorry if I offended your Toyota loyalty, but I
> have other friends that are noticing the increase in squeaks, and ratles in
> their newer Toyota vehicles. Many people on the newsgroup have reported the
> squeaks in the doors as well on the 2002-06 vintage. Again, poor design, not
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Most Camrys are made in the US.

I hate to sound 'unpatriotic', but I noticed a BIG decline in build qualty
and reliability on the US Built Camrys. A 1998 with 250 miles and the
window falls off the track? The driver's seat gets stuck? Not Nice.

OTOH, I had an '88 Accord made in Ohio that was very well built, and went
188,000 miles before we got rid of it.


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> My loyalty to Toyota started when many other folks reported satisfaction
> regarding no sqeaks and rattles and I bought one in 98 and was satisfied. My
> 2001 was worse, and my 2005 is a rattle trap all over the place with only
> 14k on the odo. Don't let anyone kid you when that is the case, start
> shopping around. If you notice also, Camry's are dropping in the JD Powers
> ratings as well. I suppose that's just a coincidence. Read the consumer
> ratings on the 2007 on Edmonds, there too, folks are starting to complain
> about the quality slipping.
>
> The same reason I bought my Toyota is the same reason I'm looking elswhere
> next time around. Quality.
>
> Reb
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> "Mike Hunter" <mikehunt2@mailcity.com> wrote in message
> news:tbGdnV980a6qTtHYUSdV9g@ptd.net...[color=green]
>> Do yet anybody kid you ALL vehicles develop some squeaks and rattle over
>> time. They ALL brake down on occasion, at an industry wide average rate
>> between 1% to 2%. Now that Toyota is running with the big boys and
>> selling cars in the millions, in the US, rather than just in the hundreds
>> of thousands more of their bad ones are starting to show up as well.
>>
>>
>> mike hunt
>>
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>> "High Tech Misfit" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
>> news:62sz6wisrvj6$.dlg@hightech.misfit...[color=darkred]
>>> Roadrunner Newsgroup wrote:
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>>>> It must be when car companies get big
>>>> that they loose control of the sqeaks and rattles. I'm going to give
>>>> Honda a
>>>> good look next time, I think Toyota has lost it quality edge.
>>>
>>> Actually, some newer Hondas have had quality issues too, including
>>> squeaks
>>> and rattles.[/color]
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