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On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:46:33 -0500, [email]in2-dadark@webtv.net[/email] wrote:
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>I'm glad my misery can be such entertainment for you guys. Actually I
>searched for a 'cheaters' group but couldn't find one. I do find the IQ
>to be very high on this DB on average. So, if anyone is going to make
>fodder of my dire straits I don't mind it being people with intelect.[/color]

I think you already know the answer, but it could also be your
imagination. Make your decision on what to do after gathering all the
facts and get as close to The Truth as you can - but don't drag it
out. Make that decision and be at peace with it.
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>I meant to go to a T-mobile store today to get advice from the pros. I
>woundn't tbe so forthcoming with them though..[/color]

Be a little forthcoming - they know all the federal and state laws
on wiretapping and other crimes - you don't want to cross that line
and put her in a position of power over you, if you think it's bad now
that could make it get seriously ugly.
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>My stratagey in the past has always been vacate the premise as it
>were... But this is one of those (VERY) rare occasions I find myself
>actually caring for the person...
>
>But if tonight's experiment is what I think it's going to (turn out to
>) be I'm going to have to bail. I'll have nothing to lose, because I
>will 'probably' know after tonight if I ever (really) had anything in
>the first place..
>Thanks.
>
>But please try harder to give me more angles to come at this one with
>???[/color]

If you're looking for her to voluntarily hand you proof on paper of
infidelity you should know better than to ask. Ain't gonna happen -
you are going to have to either find it yourself or give up on her.

Even if you really do care, if she does not and she's bound and
determined to hurt you there's no sense in hanging around just waiting
to get beat up on. Even if you love her, if she's making strange
moves like The Runaway Bride, get the hell out now.

It takes two people to make a real relationship work, and once one
side has lost it it's real hard to get it back.

And Never EVER Stay In A Relationship With A Crazy Person - Even if
the sex is fantastic. All it takes is for her to poke pinholes in the
condoms, and you can be on the hook for large amounts of your income
for the next 18 years 9 months, or longer. You don't even need to be
the guilty party - if the real father is a flake and you look more
responsible, all she has to do is put your name on the birth
certificate as the father and you are screwed. You'll have a hell of
a fight and spend a lot for tests and court costs getting it off.

Look at the one T-Mobile bill copy you were sent - if they billed
that one on the tenth of the month, they will likely bill every tenth
- if that normal billing day falls on a weekend it will get pushed
back a day or two, usually they do not do them sooner.

The companies usually have several billing cycles through the month
to keep their computers, people and printing/mailing equipment busy
all the time, and do not change the billing cycle for an account
unless asked. If you know when it should be there and still get
bullshit, there's a reason for the lies. You /are/ getting an answer,
even if it is non verbal and really not what you wanted to know.

If you know the PIN on her voicemail, and you know when the phone
will be turned off (like college classes or an employer with an
ironclad rule) you could see who has been leaving messages - but
that's dangerously close to invasion of privacy.

There is usually a way to get into the voicemail without calling
the mobile number - like calling YOUR voicemail, and then instead of
using a #(Octothorp/Pound) to enter your PIN you use a *(Star) to
select another mailbox on that system. Or they have a separate
7-digit number assigned for mailbox access, and then enter the target
phone number. But again, you could be making yourself trouble if it
could be considered hacking into her voicemail - review the TOS/AUP
Rules of the mobile carrier first.

You can call her from a line with no Caller ID and see if she picks
up that call - right after she lets one from your cellphone (that she
can see the Caller ID on) go to voicemail.

It all boils down to "If you love someone, set them free - if they
love you they'll return, if they don't there never was." It sounds
100% trite and sappy, but it's true.

Although with cats (and some people) don't expect an exuberant
slobbering kisses "Welcome Home!" like a dog - with them, a simple
head butt in the leg when you get home (that acknowledges your
existence) can speak volumes.

--<< Bruce >>--