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Synthetic or regular oil

Hello good VENZAowners!

I need an advice from all you Venza gurus.

I have 2011 VENZA AWD I4, i use my car a lot, a lot of stop and go, a lot of standing and idling (with AC or with heater) and much more. I know that Toyota suggest to change oil every 8000k, but i do it every 5000k anyways no matter what, because of abnormal usage.

My question is is it worth to switch to SYNTHETIC OIL and keep on using it thereafter?

What are your thoughts on this.

Thanks in advance.
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Your car most likely left the factory with SYnthetic oil. I have the same car (year and engine size) and was told when I bought it that it had synthetic oil. While at the toyota dealership having another car serviced, they told me at 5000 miles they dont change the oil, just top off fluids, then they change the oil at 10,000 miles.
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thanks for reply, actually my car came with regular oil and not synthetic.
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Synthetic helps with cold weather start wear as it circulates quicker than dino oil......otherwise shorter intervals between dino oil changes is all you need. as to whether or not it comes from the factory w/syn, it's been documented that the I4's have factory syn.
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I would switch to synthetic. 10,00 mile change interval will not void warranty, better mileage, probably cheaper at that change interval. No reason not to switch to me.

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I asked the following on the other Venza forum recently, but have not yet had a reply so I will post it here because of this current post.
I have a 2010 Venza I4, FWD with 4600 miles on it coming up on one year of ownership at the end of August. My current use of 5000 miles per year is standard for me as a retiree.

The car came to me new with synthetic oil in it. I called my local dealer (car purchased elsewhere) and asked him what oil came in it as new. Synthetic confirmed. Asked what they do at 5000 miles and he responded they normally just rotate the tires and wait until 10000 to change the oil. But he said in my case since the car is coming up on being one year old I should do the 10000 mile service which he says consists of tire rotation and new synthetic oil and filter.

Q? - In future, with only 5000 miles per year, should I switch to regular oil and change it and filter every year or should I use synthetic oil and change it and filter every year?

The car is only used locally the vast majority of the time although I do get it out on the interstate weekly to drive about 20 miles round trip so it is not all local streets.

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Oil Grades for Venza

I have asked 4 dealers regarding the use of 0w-20 on V6 Venza, two of them said it is not recommended and the other two said it is actually recommended. They claim to have better engine protection.

Called Toyota once, the staff read me a paragraph from the owner's manual. No help at all.

Any one has idea about the use of 0w-20 on V6 venza? good or bad? 0w-20 is very thin oil so it might be good for extreme winter in Canada. Also, it is listed for recommended oil for V6 Sienna, Camry and highlander which all share the same 2gr-fe engine, why it is not for V6 Venza?

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I think it's probably not a good idea to 2nd guess the factory. The Venza V6 calls for 5w-30 so that I think is what I would use. If you drive under heavy loads or high speeds then a higher viscosity such as 5w-40 may be better suited.

Some folks that live in colder climates use synthetic in winter, then switch back to regular oil in warmer weather.

So, the real question in your case is if 5w is light enough to allow for easy starting in winter? Is it? If it is not, because your way up there in the North land, and I do mean way up, then go with the 0 weight. I would most likely use a 0w-30 once the engine is started the viscosity characteristic gradually increases to the 30 weight. Toyota wants that 6cyl running at 30 weight not 20.

I suppose I should tell you I am in Connecticut, so my owners manual may have different specifications in it then yours and as such you should adhere to the information provided in your owners manual.
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because your way up there in the North land, and I do mean way up

I suppose I should tell you I am in Connecticut, so my owners manual may have different specifications in it then yours and as such you should adhere to the information provided in your owners manual.
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ROTFL, Well said. When you quoted me I think it would have made more sense if you quoted the the complete sentence. After all he might be located way up in the far North. In which case the 0-30 weight may make more sense. Like -40F temp.
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thanks for replies

However, one question is still puzzling me, How come V6 Camry, V6 Highlander and V6 Sienna are all on the 0W-20 recommended list and thay all share the same V6 2GR-FE engine as V6 Venza has.

One guess is that althought they share the same engine, the parts inside engines are slightly different, such as the cylinder ring. As a result, 0w-20 might not be suitable.
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Actually, the reason for using synthetic oil in the winter is not just to facilitate easier cold starts - the syn is far more viscous in cold environments than dino oil and circulates throughout the engine at a much faster rate as compared to dino oil. Faster rate of circulation reduces cold start friction.

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2012 V6 Venza in Canada will call for 0w20. Here is link for a Toyota oil chart. As far as I know it is for Canada. I don't know if the 2012 V6 Venza in the In the USA will also require 0W20.

As you can see in the chart, 2011 and earlier are listed at 5W30 or 5W20 but not 0W**.

I post this chart for informational purposes only. Do not make any changes contrary to your owners manual without clearing it with Toyota Motors.

This Canada chart was current as of Jan 2011. It makes no mention of synthetic oil.

Toyota Oil Applications.pdf
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Tech Tip T-TT-0005-10 July, 2011
Subject Market
Oil Viscosity Applicability and Change Interval Guide USA
Service Category Section
General Maintenance
Applicability
All Models
Tech Tip 07/25/2011 Rev5 © 2010, Toyota Motor Sales, USA Page 1 of 3
Ver. 1.0 2/9/2010 T
APPLICABLE VEHICLES
2010 – 2012 Model Year Vehicles
CONDITION
Starting with the 2010 Model Year, Toyota began a gradual transition to the use of synthetic 0w-20 viscosity engine oil. There are multiple benefits of this oil, including:
 Reduced friction and wear on engine surfaces
 Improved fuel economy
 Reduction in waste oil stream (in vehicles approved for 10,000 mile oil change intervals)
 Reduced maintenance cost (in vehicles approved for 10,000 mile oil change intervals)
Due to the improved performance and durability of 0w-20 synthetic oil, Toyota has extended the oil change intervals to 10,000 miles for most vehicles that require this oil. With this change, the following should be noted:
 The 2TR-FE 4-cylinder engine (4Runner and Tacoma) is an exception to this new change interval program; this engine has not been approved for the 10,000 mile interval at this time. A 5,000 mile oil change interval is still required for these vehicles.
 Only Toyota vehicles in which 0w-20 oil is mandatory (except for the 2TR-FE Engine) have been approved for extended oil change intervals.
 Vehicles in which 0w-20 is an option to 5w-20 (or 5w-30) will continue to require 5,000 mile change intervals, even if 0w-20 oil is used.
 In the case of vehicles with 10,000 mile oil change intervals, the 5,000 mile service interval has not been eliminated. The traditional 5,000 mile maintenance procedures (such as tire rotation) will continue to be required, and the fluid levels (including engine oil) will need to be checked and adjusted at this time.
 If the vehicle operation meets the standard criteria for “Special Operating Conditions” such as: driving off-road, on dirt roads, towing a trailer, making repeated short trips under 32˚ F, or extensive idling; the engine oil must be replaced at 5,000 mile intervals, regardless of oil used.
RECOMMENDATIONS
Please follow the charts on pages 2 & 3 to determine the proper oil viscosity, fill quantity, and proper change interval for 2010-2012 Model Year Toyota vehicles under non-severe usage.
Tech Tip T-TT-0005-10 08/11/2010 17:21:09
Subject Market
Oil Viscosity Applicability and Change Interval Guide USA
Applicability
All Models
Tech Tip 07/25/2011 Rev5 © 2010, Toyota Motor Sales,USA USA Page 2 of 3
Vehicle Engine Model Year Oil Capacity w/ Filter Change Change Interval
TRUCK
4Runner
1GR-FE
2010-2012
0w-20
6.6
10,000 Miles
2TR-FE
2010
0w-20
6.1
5,000 Miles
FJ Cruiser
1GR-FE
2010-2012
0w-20
6.4
10,000 Miles
Highlander
1AR-FE
2010-2012
5w-20 or 0w-20
4.7
5,000 Miles
2GR-FE
2010
NOTE 1
6.4
5,000 Miles
2011-2012
0w-20
6.4
10,000 Miles
Highlander HV
3MZ-FE
2010
5w-20 or 0w-20
5.0
5,000 Miles
2GR-FXE
2011-2012
0w-20
6.4
10,000 Miles
Land Cruiser
3UR-FE
2010
5w-20 or 0w-20
NOTE 2
5,000 Miles
2011
7.9
5,000 Miles
2012
0w-20
7.9
10,000 Miles
RAV4
2AR-FE
2010-2012
5w-20 or 0w-20
4.7
5,000 Miles
2GR-FE
2010-2012
5w-30
6.4
5,000 Miles
Sequoia
1UR-FE
2010-2012
0w-20
7.9
10,000 Miles
3UR-FE
2010-2011
5w-20 or 0w-20
7.9
5,000 Miles
2012
0w-20
7.9
10,000 Miles
3UR-FBE
2010-2011
5w-20 or 0w-20
7.9
5,000 Miles / Note 3
2012
0w-20
7.9
Sienna
1AR-FE
2011-2012
0w-20
4.7
10,000 Miles
2GR-FE
2010
5w-30
6.4
5,000 Miles
2011-2012
0w-20
6.4
10,000 Miles
Tacoma
1GR-FE
2010-2012
5w-30
NOTE 4
5,000 Miles
2TR-FE
2010
5w-20 or 0w-20
6.1
5,000 Miles
2011-2012
0w-20
6.1
5,000 Miles
Tundra
1GR-FE
2010
5w-30
5.5
5,000 Miles
2011-2012
0w-20
5.5
10,000 Miles
1UR-FE
2010-2012
0w-20
7.9
10,000 Miles
3UR-FE
2010-2011
5w-20 or 0w-20
7.9
5,000 Miles
2012
0w-20
7.9
10,000 Miles
3UR-FBE
2010-2011
5w-20 or 0w-20
7.9
5,000 Miles / Note 3
2012
0w-20
7.9
NOTE 1. With Towing Package - 5w-30 / Without Towing Package - 5w-20
NOTE 2. If dip stick color is BLUE, fill quantity is 7.4 quarts. If dip stick is GREEN, fill quantity is 7.9 quarts
NOTE 3. Flex fuel vehicles that have been operated with E85 must have engine oil changed every 2,500 miles
NOTE 4. 4.8 quarts for 2WD (except Pre-Runner), 5.5 quarts for 4X4 and Pre-Runner
Tech Tip T-TT-0005-10 08/11/2010 17:21:09
Subject Market
Oil Viscosity Applicability and Change Interval Guide USA
Applicability
All Models
Tech Tip 07/25/2011 Rev5 © 2010, Toyota Motor Sales,USA USA Page 3 of 3
Vehicle Engine Model Year Oil Capacity w/ Filter Change Change Interval
CAR
Avalon
2GR-FE
2010-2012
5w-30
6.4
5,000 Miles
Camry
2AR-FE
2010-2012
0w-20
4.7
10,000 Miles
2GR-FE
2010-2011
5w-30
6.4
5,000 Miles
2012
0w-20
6.4
10,000 Miles
Camry HV
2AZ-FXE
2010-2011
5w-20 or 0w-20
4.5
5,000 Miles
2012
0w-20
4.5
10,000 Miles
Corolla
2ZR-FE
2010
5w-20 or 0w-20
4.4
5,000 Miles
2011-2012
0w-20
4.4
10,000 Miles
2AZ-FE
2010-2012
5w-20 or 0w-20
4.0
5,000 Miles
Matrix
2ZR-FE
2010
5w-20 or 0w-20
4.4
5,000 Miles
2011-2012
0w-20
4.4
10,000 Miles
2AZ-FE
2010-2012
5w-20 or 0w-20
4.0
5,000 Miles
Prius
2ZR-FXE
2010-2012
0w-20
4.4
10,000 Miles
Venza
1AR-FE
2010-2012
5w-20 or 0w-20
4.7
5,000 Miles
2GR-FE
2010-2011
5w-30
6.4
5,000 Miles
2012
0w-20
6.4
10,000 Miles
Yaris
1NZ-FE
2010-2012
5w-30
3.9
5,000 Miles

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Bovie323I Your link goes to the TIS page for Toyota.

Here is a 2010-2011 link for USA Market. There does not seem to be a published official Toyota chart for 2012 USA yet.

www.scribd.com/doc/48798088/T-TT-0005-10

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