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Old 08-16-2006, 12:17 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gen 1 Avalon stereo install help thread

I just completed my new stereo install in my 97 Avalon, with the help of Crutchfield (those guys rock!). I have little experience doing this before, but with planning and Crutchfield customer support, I felt like a pro. Here is what I did.

Mine has the 6 speaker system, so there is a factor amp. Those of you lucky enough not to have the 6 or 7 speaker system can get a wiring harness. I had to bypass the factory amp, which meant running totally new wires.

Bye the way, when doing this I found out why the 3 disc cd changer stopped working. It was the chucky cheese tokens the previous owner had in there. The head unit was made by delco, and the 3 disc changer was alpine—how about that.

Just for reference, here is the staring pic:

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/before_install.jpg

Our Avalons have a double din space. You will need an adapter if you use a single din stereo--see final pic for what mine looks like.

To get the trim piece off, find something with a 90 degree bend, and start at the bottom. There are two slight indentions right where the bottom clips are that hold the trim piece. The 90 degree bend allows you to pull. I was getting no where with a screw driver or butter knife. Here is what I used:

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/trim_removal.jpg

You will have to unplug the hazard button. The metal brackets holding the stereo also holds part of the climate control. No big surprises undoing these.

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/stereo_removed.jpg

As you can see with it removed, there are two plugs. Crutchfield told me one plug is to control an optional cd changer in the trunk and to ignore it. The other plug is the one that connects the factor head unit to the factor amp. The only thing you will pull from this plug is the remote antenna power. Its going to be either a black with red stripe wire, which I did not have, or the red wire right on the upper right hand corner, next to the green wire. This is necessary for good reception even if you do not have a power antenna, because our in glass antennas are actually amplified. If you do not connect this your reception will stink.

Another note, there are two antenna plugs, one bigger and one smaller (in the pic I am holding the smaller one). Most new head units will only have a opening for the larger one. It was explained to me that our original system could move between two antenna systems for the best reception and to just ignore the smaller one, because most new head unit cannot do this.

Now you have to get to the factory amp, which is behind the glove box.

Start by removing the right kick panel. It has a plastic bolt, then you just pull it off.

Your next step will be to remove the L shaped trim panel, with also has a cover attached to it, behind it. This cover came off easily as I removed the L shaped trim panel. The L shaped trim panel has three bolts. Two are easy to see. The third you have to open the glove box and remove a cover to see:

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/..._trim_bolt.jpg

After you removed the bolts, you will pull off the L shaped trim piece. I had to play with opening and closing the glove box door while getting it off. This next pic will help so you know where the tabs are that holds it in.

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/...trim_clips.jpg

The glove box door comes off easily with three bolts.

Four screws hold the actual glove box, and there are connectors that have to be removed, including one that I think runs to the air bag (oh year, before you batter is disconnected). You will have to work a little to get the glove box proper out.

When you finally get it all removed, this is what you will see:

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/amp.jpg

That is your factory amp on the right, with two connectors in it. It is attached with two bolts on the rear side of it.

Here is a closer look at the plugs:

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/amp_plugs.jpg

What I did to work with these was to cut back the insulation about an inch. It’s tight, but there was enough room to reach through the glove box, strip wires, and attach new wires. If you do not have a wire stripper already, buy the smallest one you can. Mine is quite large and was cumbersome to work with.

You will basically end up running 10 wires from here to new head unit (8 speaker wires, constant power, and accessory power).

You can consider the blue (white in some Avalons) one the output—out to the speakers, and the green (grey in some Avalons) the input-inputs from the head unit. From the input one you will only draw your Accessory Power. Not sure why, but Crutchfield recommended drawing power from the one I am designating output.

Here is the wiring schema for each plug courtesy of Crutchfield:


White or blue plug at amplifier (output)

FUNCTION / WIRE COLOR

Right Front SPKR + / LIGHT GREEN – this and the next 3 go to new HU

Left Front SPKR + / PINK

Right Rear SPKR + / RED

Left Rear SPKR + / BLACK

Woofer + (7th SPKR) / GREEN/BLACK – missing on mine

Constant 12 Volt Input / WHITE/BLUE – where I drew power

Right Front SPKR - / BLUE – this and next 3 go to new HU

Left Front SPKR - / VIOLET

Right Rear SPKR - / WHITE/BLUE

Left Rear SPKR - / YELLOW

Chassis Ground / BROWN – the ground I used

Chassis Ground / BROWN

Woofer - (7th SPKR) / GREEN/RED – missing on mine

Constant 12 Volt Input / WHITE/BLUE




Gray or light green plug at amplifier (input)

FUNCTION / WIRE COLOR

Remote Turn On / RED – you could do your antenna power here, or where I mentioned earlier

Accessory 12 Volt Input / GRAY – where you get your accessory power

Constant 12 Volt to Radio / WHITE

Beep Input from Radio / BLACK

Left Front SPKR + Input / GREEN

Right Front + Input / RED

Illumination Input / GREEN

Illumination Output to Radio / GREEN

Accessory 12 Volt to Radio / BLACK

Chassis Ground to Radio / BLACK

Signal Ground Input from Radio / BROWN

Mute Input from Radio / BLUE

Left Rear SPKR + Input / WHITE

Right Rear SPKR + Input / YELLOW


Additional notes:

I also installed my XM skifi2. I got a bracket on line from pro-fit (google pro-fit). I also got a new power source, a cig lighter socket to wire in accessory power from radio shack, so I did not have to have wires coming from the cig ligher below the radio. It was easy to get through the fire wall with my XM antenna with the glove box removed. My new head unit I bought also has an aux port in the back so I could wire directly into it, versus using the fm modulation option. Thus, I have three sources 1-tuner, 2-cd, 3-xm. I wanted to keep my skifi2 so I cam move my xm from home, to car, and to my office. That is why I did it this way.

Here is my finished product:

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/finis.jpg
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I remember when I did an install in my Mom's (formerly mine ...kinda) 95 Avalon. Luckily my dad had purchased the shop and electrical wiring books for the car.

It also had the 6 speaker system in it, however to my knowlidge, the 4 speaker system also had the seperate amp and no wiring harness was available (at least for 95/96). My Aunt's 98 has the 4 speaker system with single disc CD and also has the extenal 170 watt amp.
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Thank you, the info about bypassing the factory amp was very helpfull. I would like to mention one problem I ran into that may be helpfull to others attempting this venture. I could not get my power antenna to work even after trying the wires you described. After looking at the wiring diagram in the haynes manuel I realized the antenna requires two power supplies, one from the head unit and one from the amp. By trial and error I found the two wires and connected them to my antenna wire. The wire at the head unit was black with a red strip. The one at the amp was red. I imagine that the wiring may have changed a little from year to year.
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This is great! Would've been better a year ago when I installed mine.

I went ahead and made myself a wiring assembly to connect between the existing harness, the speakers, and my new unit. This way if I sell it I can reinstall the old unit. As it turns out I've since given up on that idea and tossed the old unit.

Where'd you mount the accessory plug?
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Old thread, i know. So for this u just need a wiring harness if u have 6-7 speakers? Also approx how long this take you?
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Old 12-29-2007, 09:32 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Great instructions and write-up, but there is a plug in wiring harness adapter available for 95-99 Avalon systems with the factory amp that makes the whole re-wiring thing moot - it is made by Metra, it is available through Crutchfield
http://www.crutchfield.com/App/Produ...112&c=3&tp=736
and also pops up on E-bay from time to time (be careful, it is NOT the regular two-plug Metra Toyota Avalon/Camry set that you see for $3-$4), costs about $12.99, makes installation a snap. The replacement radio must have two RCA pre-amp outputs to use the adapter/factory amp, most better units sold nowadays do. I will be using this adaptor to install a JVC KD AVX-1 Receiver/CD/MP3/WMA/DVD player with built in screen.

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I am trying to replace the original stereo with aftermarket one in my 1993 Previa. The wire schema on the Amp output is the same for all Toyotas after 1987. My wire harness for the Amp input looks a like the one you have explained. Correct me if I am wrong but does this mean that you totally bypass the factory Amp. Is there any other way to install aftermarket stereo and keep factory amp? If so could anyone post how to pair wires of Amp input harness to aftermarket stereo?
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The adapter bypasses the subwoofer function of the factory amp. AFAIK the speaker outputs are still being routed through there, but I never delved that much in the wiring schematics.
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Now you have to get to the factory amp, which is behind the glove box.

Start by removing the right kick panel. It has a plastic bolt, then you just pull it off.

Your next step will be to remove the L shaped trim panel, with also has a cover attached to it, behind it. This cover came off easily as I removed the L shaped trim panel. The L shaped trim panel has three bolts. Two are easy to see. The third you have to open the glove box and remove a cover to see:

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/..._trim_bolt.jpg

After you removed the bolts, you will pull off the L shaped trim piece. I had to play with opening and closing the glove box door while getting it off. This next pic will help so you know where the tabs are that holds it in.

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/...trim_clips.jpg

The glove box door comes off easily with three bolts.

Four screws hold the actual glove box, and there are connectors that have to be removed, including one that I think runs to the air bag (oh year, before you batter is disconnected). You will have to work a little to get the glove box proper out.

When you finally get it all removed, this is what you will see:

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/amp.jpg

That is your factory amp on the right, with two connectors in it. It is attached with two bolts on the rear side of it.

Here is a closer look at the plugs:

http://drri.home.comcast.net/avalon/amp_plugs.jpg

What I did to work with these was to cut back the insulation about an inch. It’s tight, but there was enough room to reach through the glove box, strip wires, and attach new wires. If you do not have a wire stripper already, buy the smallest one you can. Mine is quite large and was cumbersome to work with.

You will basically end up running 10 wires from here to new head unit (8 speaker wires, constant power, and accessory power).

You can consider the blue (white in some Avalons) one the output—out to the speakers, and the green (grey in some Avalons) the input-inputs from the head unit. From the input one you will only draw your Accessory Power. Not sure why, but Crutchfield recommended drawing power from the one I am designating output.

Here is the wiring schema for each plug courtesy of Crutchfield:


White or blue plug at amplifier (output)

FUNCTION / WIRE COLOR

Right Front SPKR + / LIGHT GREEN – this and the next 3 go to new HU

Left Front SPKR + / PINK

Right Rear SPKR + / RED

Left Rear SPKR + / BLACK

Woofer + (7th SPKR) / GREEN/BLACK – missing on mine

Constant 12 Volt Input / WHITE/BLUE – where I drew power

Right Front SPKR - / BLUE – this and next 3 go to new HU

Left Front SPKR - / VIOLET

Right Rear SPKR - / WHITE/BLUE

Left Rear SPKR - / YELLOW

Chassis Ground / BROWN – the ground I used

Chassis Ground / BROWN

Woofer - (7th SPKR) / GREEN/RED – missing on mine

Constant 12 Volt Input / WHITE/BLUE




Gray or light green plug at amplifier (input)

FUNCTION / WIRE COLOR

Remote Turn On / RED – you could do your antenna power here, or where I mentioned earlier

Accessory 12 Volt Input / GRAY – where you get your accessory power

Constant 12 Volt to Radio / WHITE

Beep Input from Radio / BLACK

Left Front SPKR + Input / GREEN

Right Front + Input / RED

Illumination Input / GREEN

Illumination Output to Radio / GREEN

Accessory 12 Volt to Radio / BLACK

Chassis Ground to Radio / BLACK

Signal Ground Input from Radio / BROWN

Mute Input from Radio / BLUE

Left Rear SPKR + Input / WHITE

Right Rear SPKR + Input / YELLOW
Thanks for the great writeup SickWilly. Not sure if you're still around or if anyone else can help. I followed these instructions and found no amp under the glove box of my 1999 XL, with 4 speaker system. I suppose that means I don't have an amp (which is counter to what some people have said that ALL Avalons before 2000 came with an amp.)

My question is what wiring harness do I need, or does someone have the wiring harnass schematic for the stereo without the amp. I bought an inexpensive Pioneer DEH-11E to replace the factory head unit. I'm glad I don't have an amp because the Pioneer doesn't have preamp out. I plan on either making an adapter plug or splicing into the existing cable but need to know what wires go where.
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This was written quite a while ago, if you are looking for a simpler install, I'd recommend just getting the wiring harness adapter that crutchfield recommends. There is no longer a need for rewiring the amplifier, even if you have one. This is most likely the wiring harness you need(you should probably contact crutchfield if you want to make sure): http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1207017...s.html?tp=2977

If you want to make your own cable, here is a factory diagram of the sound system wiring: http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...-diagram-help/
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This was written quite a while ago, if you are looking for a simpler install, I'd recommend just getting the wiring harness adapter that crutchfield recommends. There is no longer a need for rewiring the amplifier, even if you have one. This is most likely the wiring harness you need(you should probably contact crutchfield if you want to make sure): http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1207017...s.html?tp=2977

If you want to make your own cable, here is a factory diagram of the sound system wiring: http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...-diagram-help/
Thanks for the links to the diagrams. I bought those harnesses, from Ebay...as well as the DIN pocket. Whole mess cost $25 bucks including shipping. I just wasn't sure how to wire them...not sure if they will come with instructions on what each color wire is, or if I have to know the original wires...which is why I was looking for a diagram.

I am a bit concerned though, because the nhparrot posted a pdf that shows an amp behind the radio. I was hoping I wouldn't have any kind of amp to deal with (since I don't have a radio with preamp outs.) If I find one there I'll have to wire around it.

http://www.tundrasolutions.com/forum...-help-loca.pdf
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That diagram is paired with the diagram showing the subwoofer, which is NOT the 4 speaker system. Also, the pages following that one in the manual state different troubleshooting steps for with or without an amplifier, so no, the 4 speaker system does not have an amplifier.
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That diagram is paired with the diagram showing the subwoofer, which is NOT the 4 speaker system. Also, the pages following that one in the manual state different troubleshooting steps for with or without an amplifier, so no, the 4 speaker system does not have an amplifier.
Thanks...and you are up early....like me. :-)

The main impetus for changing out the stereo was getting an auxiliary input. Previously we had gone through a couple cheap tape adapters and FM transmitters and a good one...or antenna bypass, was as expensive as buying the Pioneer CD receiver ($60.) I will be happy to not have to deal with inputting the radio code every time we remove power too.

P.S. Anyone know what the power output of the stock radio was? The Pioneer is 14 RMS watts x 4 channels.

P.S.S. Anyone added a rear sub to a system that didn't come with one? The Pioneer has rear preamps out. Down the road might add an amp and rear sub, but wonder what is the best way to get the wire back there (I see there is already a speaker housing under the rear shelf.)

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I have been unable to find any sort of specifications on the original speaker power. But I'm pretty sure that the pioneer unit will work out just fine without any amplifiers or anything.

Also, I'd assume that the rear outputs are intended for a subwoofer output instead of a rear output. You would need to run a power wire from the battery to the trunk, and the signal wires from the rear pre-outs to the trunk(also you will need to run a wire to tell the amp when to turn on(remote wire)), you'd run these cables on opposite sides of the car, under the carpet, under the doors. You can get under the sides of the carpets without any tools by just lifting up the plastic things on the bottom of the door frame.

Also, if you are installing a subwoofer in the trunk, you would be better to go with a box. This is because 8 inch free air subwoofers are hard to come by, and probably won't give you sound comparable to a subwoofer in a box.
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After looking at the cost and hassle of a rear sub setup, I may just go with an integrated amp/sub like this one.

http://www.amazon.com/Boss-BASS600-Low-Profile-Amplified-Subwoofer/dp/B000OSZA44/ref=pd_sim_e_1 http://www.amazon.com/Boss-BASS600-Low-Profile-Amplified-Subwoofer/dp/B000OSZA44/ref=pd_sim_e_1



It gets decent reviews and would be a nice supplement to the 4 inch door speakers.

I'd probably either go under the seat or up under the dash. The dash would be more convenient (shorter wires to run) but I'm concerned that might cause rattles, or vibrations.

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