trans pan torque specs

[rickey1172]

i need to know the pan torque specs for a 1997 avalon w 4/spd trans thanks in advance

[Wrenchy]

CSAXON gave you specs high enough to strip the pan bolts out! I take it you want the auto-tranney pan bolts? I checked 2 manuals, Chilton and Haynes. Both state (for 97-2001 models) 43 in-lbs PAN/ 96 in-lbs for the STRAINER BOLTS. If you clean out the pan, be sure to change the strainer (if that type) or flush the "permanent" type out really, really thoroughly (I have a "permanent" type).

I just got done with a complete flush/fill of my tranney (2001) and used the "43" spec for the pan bolts- I snugged them down till they felt "just right", then torqued them to "43", only a very, very little bit more (I have been "wrenching" for 30+ years, I can "feel" the right torque). I have no idea where CS got the "69" spec., but as I said, I have 2 manuals that say 43, and 43 "felt right".

Usually I refuse to answer posts for info that can be obtained from a $20 manual. I don't know if the 69 spec would strip the bolts, but it seems to be grossly high. I am not picking on CS, but the fact here is this is a perfect example of getting bad data that could RUIN your car, and cost $$$$$ to repair.

Get a manual, or just stop working on your car and pay to have it done. You CAN"T work on a car without a manual, except very simple things like oil changes.

To be honest, I get short of temper for people who won't spend $22 to get a manual- I have manual for all 3 of my cars, and they have paid for themselves many, many times over. Wrenchy

[Wrenchy]

A perfect example of WHY everyone who works on their car needs a manual-

I rechecked specs for this. Apparently, CS took it you were talking about the OIL PAN BOLTS. 69 is right for those, IF you have the STEEL pan, not the aluminum.

Now, 1172 mentioned the TRANNEY TYPE, so I took it to mean he wanted specs for the TRANNEY PAN, so I gave him the right specs. I also made it VERY CLEAR I was giving tranney-pan specs, even gave specs/info for the strainer types to help with a tranney flush/fill.

I guess CS hes a mental need to bash people- if he had READ my post he would have seen it was for the TRANNEY pan bolts. After I read his repost, I suspected he was talkign about the oil pan spec, so I checked, 69 is correct. If he had READ my post he would have seen he was talking oil pan, I was talking tranney pan. MY POST was very clear!

So, if 1172 has torqued the tranney pan bolts to 69, he now has a screwed up pan, probably stripped holes in the block. If he torqued the oil pan bolts to 43, all he needs to do is break them slightly loose and retorque to 69. But my guess is CS is not enough of a man to let him know the 69 spec IS wrong if 1172 is working on the tranney pan.

ALL could have been avoided if 1172 had stated which pan (no problem, I maybe misread based on tranney type stated), or if CS had read my post carefully to realize I was talking tranney, he was talking oil pan. And, by the way, there are 2 specs for the oil pan; steel (most likely) and aluminum (less used). CS, which pan does he have? Do you know? Maybe you should give him both specs?

I have the BEST manual for my Honda (Helms OEM), and time to time I check its specs against the Haynes I have. NEVER have I seen a difference, ever. This is because Haynes/Chilton "borrow" the OEM specs when printing.

CS may feel important he has the OEM Totota, but when I bought my Avalon the Toyota manual was very, very expensive (typical when cars are new), so I bought the Haynes. I stated in another post the Tyota shop manuals had come way down in price, I might even buy one soon.

Good luck, 1172. Now you have both specs, oil and tranney pan, I hope it's not too late. Due to you mentioning "tranney" I took it you were working on the tranney (flush/fill probably). I was VERY clear this is what I thought you were after.

A perfect example of two people reading the same post differently, both giving correct info. Once again, this is a PERFECT example of why you need to get your own shop manual. And if you are working on the oil pan, check the materail type, then check with CS for the correct torque, he didn't give you a "heads up" for that. Wrenchy