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Old 12-08-2010, 08:55 PM   #1 (permalink)
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USA Serious help needed. 98 Avalon won't stay running

1998 Avalon, will start when you partially hold throttle open, but dies if you try and move throttle. It is losing injector pulse, i have a noid light on a couple of the cylinders and when you start reving it up the noid lights get brighter then die out and the car shuts off. i have tried crank/cam position sensors, tps, iac, ignitor, all 3 coils, ohmed all 6 injectors, checked plugs wires, checked for good flow out exhaust, mass air flow is new, checked wiring harness and all grounds. help!! i am almost wanting to blame the ecm but do not think it is that. i have my scanner on it and everything seems to be ok other than running lean. if anyone has any ideas or has seen this before please let me know.
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Old 12-09-2010, 12:19 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Those coil packs lead straight back to the ECM, I believe.

Good battery? Maybe even a ground on the ECM/engine is causing a voltage drop. Increasing the RPM increases the energy needed by the coil packs, causing a larger voltage drop, enough where the ignition system cant be sustained.

Because from what you mentioned, I can't think of much else mechanically related that would cause a spark to be lost.

I think the coil packs have a dedicated ground wire back to the ECM also. but for kicks take a VOM and measure voltage from the battery negative terminal to the cylinder head. Should be close to 0 volts. try it at the rpm before it kicks the bucket. try it on the ECM too.

Thats about all I can muster!

edit:reading your post another time I see you already checked grounds.
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Do you have good fuel pressure?
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fuel pressure is great, 50psi even when it dies. i am not losing spark, i am losing injector pulse. the pulse that tells the injectors when to spray.
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Clean your IACV(Idle Air Control Valve). Take out your intake hose, right before your throttle body flap, there is a hole. Get a can of carburator cleaner, throttle body cleaner, sea foam, or mechanical cleaner and spray it into that hole. Let the cleaner soak in for at least 5 minutes and turn on the engine. Step on the gas a little if the car struggles. Carbon builds up from time to time.
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already did this... does anyone know where to get a good used computer (ecm) or cheap reman for this car? i have the toyota numbers off the old one if needed.
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Best I can think of is local salvage yards, maybe E-BAY, for sale section of this site? I am not sure about the ECM, but keep in mind when looking for used parts the Avalon and (1MZ-FE V6) Camry of that generation share the same parts.
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