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Old 01-12-2011, 12:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Weird noise front left near tires

I have a weird sound near the wheel in the front. It doesnt sound like the bearing is broken and it is only there when iam accelerating. It goes like "tak"tak"tak" especially when going around corners but also when going straight line. When I hit 50 it stops. The sound "slows down" when going slower and is faster when going faster. Hard to describe. It is like there is a nail in the tire which slams against a part of the car every time the wheel goes round. Like a knocking sound.

Its a 1995 Avalon with 178k miles on it.

Anybody have an idea what it could be? Maybe its not the wheel but something thats near the wheel?


Thanks very much in advance.


EDIT: I went to the repair shop. They replaced the left front CV axle. Everything is fine now. Cost me $174. Dont know the prices on replacement for those but I guess its ok.

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Old 01-12-2011, 02:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'd guess it's one of the CV joints. Is it metallic sounding? CV joints usually don't make noise when the car's going straight, but I reckon there could be exceptions.
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it doesnt really sound metallic but I dont really know exactly.
What do I do if its the CV joints?
How much will it cost to let it repair at a shop??


thanks for the answer!
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Old 01-12-2011, 03:24 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'd guess it's one of the CV joints. Is it metallic sounding? CV joints usually don't make noise when the car's going straight, but I reckon there could be exceptions.
what BMR said, cv joint. most cars are $100-200 a side
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Look at your wheel well and try to find something that could contact the tire, maybe the plastic inner fender is loose and flopping around. With a speed increase the wind going by could affect the tap noise. Check tire wear if abnormal find out why, and then replace tires.
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Thank you very much for all your replies so far.
I just wanted to update some information. I just had to drive like 200 miles with this and it got worse. Its definitely not only when you turn but its there just as loud when I drive straight, up to about 60 miles/hour then it turns quiet. It got louder too. Weird thing, after the 200 mile drive, when I came from the interstate and slowed down, it wasnt that loud anymore and not that bad, maybe it got warm and better, no idea.

I will look at the wheel tomorrow and look if I can find anything. My only concern is, if I consult a mechanic and I dont know exactly what it is, they can just say its the bearing or whatever, charge me for it and it wont get better....right?

Whatever I do, I will update this so others who have the same problem can see how this turns out.

I found a youtube video with the almost exact sound.....is it the CV joint ?

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Check all your exhaust hangers and look for spots that the exhaust is hitting the car. Check engine mounts for looseness and play. That is not a CV.
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After listening to that video clip, I'm with tacosteelerman. That is not a CV joint. They're more "clinky" sounding. It could be a lot of things, including what he said.
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i had warped rotors that made that noise once. does it let up when you get off the gas like in the video?
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hmm

yes and no .... First, it only was there when I stepped on the gas but then, at one point it was starting to make that noise when I did NOT step on the gas. But it was more apparent when stepping on the gas and thats what it is like right now I guess.

Which rotors do you mean?

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the front brake rotors. the high spot was smacking the pad, it made a "shuffling" sound, but it was loud. i still think its the cv, though.
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Ok, lastest info here it is. I uploaded a youtube video of the actual sound. Sounds different from the outside of course. Note, iam going around corners and it makes that sound, correct, but it also makes it when going straight often. You can hear it best at the beginning of the video.



Heres pictures from behind the wheel btw.




Thanks for all your help. Next stop probably a pricey repair shop ..Ill let you know what it was
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It's kinda hard to separate the tires-crunching-on-snow noise from the problem noise. But at the beginning of the video where I can hear it the best, it does sound like a bad CV joint to me. The noise while turning hard right means the left (driver's side) CV joint is bad. Does it make the noise more loudly while turning sharply in both directions?... more loudly than when it's going straight?
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yeah its that clunking kinda sound at the beginning. It does it more loudly when turning right. Its louder when turning too I would say even though it got pretty bad going straight a few times. But I can always hear it when im turning, sometimes only when turning right.
So maybe its a CV. Probably going to let a mechanic look over it tomorrow.
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You may want to check your motor mounts. A transverse engine may twist differently then the good old front to back motors. I just enjoyed replacing the front dog leg mount and the rear with out lube and it seems to have taken care of a noise similar to the video.
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