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Old 05-09-2011, 11:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Trunk release switch on dash not working

Hello Folks,

The trunk release switch on the dash stopped working all of sudden after I did my last oil change where the battery of the car was also inspected for my 2000 XLS.

The switch on the key fob is working though.

I checked the trunk switch in the glove box too and that didn't have any effect.

Any clues what else do I need to check ?

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The rear key cylinder isn't in valet mode is it? that would cause the dash switch not to work.

If the key opening is going up and down, it's not in valet mode.
If the key opening is going from side to side, it is in valet mode and you just need to use you're key and turn it clockwise 1/4 turn.
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Hello Folks,

The trunk release switch on the dash stopped working all of sudden after I did my last oil change where the battery of the car was also inspected for my 2000 XLS.

The switch on the key fob is working though.

I checked the trunk switch in the glove box too and that didn't have any effect.

Any clues what else do I need to check ?

~A
Double check the switch in the glove box. I pushed mine by accident and went crazy for a couple of weeks trying to "fix" the dash switch.
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Double check the switch in the glove box. I pushed mine by accident and went crazy for a couple of weeks trying to "fix" the dash switch.
However if the switch in the glove box is pushed in, shouldn't I be unable to open the trunk using the keyfob too ?

I have no issues opening the trunk using the key fob, its just the switch on the dash which isn't working.

Will check out the rear cylinder position as advised by HATEnFATE

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However if the switch in the glove box is pushed in, shouldn't I be unable to open the trunk using the keyfob too ?

I have no issues opening the trunk using the key fob, its just the switch on the dash which isn't working.

Will check out the rear cylinder position as advised by HATEnFATE

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I thought the glove box switch just disables the the dash switch, but I'm not sure - will try that tonite.
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I wasn't aware about the button in the glovey but if the Tech checked the cabin air filter, maybe they hit that switch disabling the dash switch. Sounds like another type of Valet feature.
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I wasn't aware about the button in the glovey but if the Tech checked the cabin air filter, maybe they hit that switch disabling the dash switch. Sounds like another type of Valet feature.
Even more likely, if cabin air filter was changed, that glove box switch might have gotten unplugged. Don't have a circuit diagram, but that could easily kill the dash switch regardless of position of glove box switch.

And I wasn't aware of the "turn the key" valet feature - going to have to try that when I go out to my car.
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The rear key cylinder isn't in valet mode is it? that would cause the dash switch not to work.

If the key opening is going up and down, it's not in valet mode.
If the key opening is going from side to side, it is in valet mode and you just need to use you're key and turn it clockwise 1/4 turn.
The key opening was in vertical position which indicates its not in valet mode. ( btw i don't think it can ever be in a horizontal position atleast for the avalon) The max you could turn by inserting the key was only 45 degrees.

I don't think the tech checked the cabin air filter since there is too much of stuff in the glove box and it was as it is. Anyways , just to confirm the glove switch is not the culprit, is there a way I can check myself if its unplugged ? are any special tools required to open it?

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The key opening was in vertical position which indicates its not in valet mode. ( btw i don't think it can ever be in a horizontal position atleast for the avalon) The max you could turn by inserting the key was only 45 degrees.

I don't think the tech checked the cabin air filter since there is too much of stuff in the glove box and it was as it is. Anyways , just to confirm the glove switch is not the culprit, is there a way I can check myself if its unplugged ? are any special tools required to open it?

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OK - no valet feature with the key opening in our cars. And using the valet button in the glove box does NOT stop the key fob trunk release from working. Just checked both of those things out.

The switch in the glove box should be pushed IN for the dash button to work. Having the glove box button OUT disables the switch.

If all of that is correct and button still does not work, next step is to determine if the dash button is working. You can pull it out and unplug it; then test it. The switch is normally open; when you press it you close the contacts to complete the circuit. If you don't have a VOM, do this. Use a piece of wire to connect the two terminals in the WIRING HARNESS (the thing the switch plugs into) together. If the trunk opens, that means the circuit is OK and the switch is defective. You can do the same test on the switch in the glove box, but you may have to remove the glove box to disconnect it. If both of these switches are good, then the problem is either in the wires or the Body Contol Module (BCM).

Good luck and let us know what you find out.
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OK - no valet feature with the key opening in our cars. And using the valet button in the glove box does NOT stop the key fob trunk release from working. Just checked both of those things out.

The switch in the glove box should be pushed IN for the dash button to work. Having the glove box button OUT disables the switch.

If all of that is correct and button still does not work, next step is to determine if the dash button is working. You can pull it out and unplug it; then test it. The switch is normally open; when you press it you close the contacts to complete the circuit. If you don't have a VOM, do this. Use a piece of wire to connect the two terminals in the WIRING HARNESS (the thing the switch plugs into) together. If the trunk opens, that means the circuit is OK and the switch is defective. You can do the same test on the switch in the glove box, but you may have to remove the glove box to disconnect it. If both of these switches are good, then the problem is either in the wires or the Body Contol Module (BCM).

Good luck and let us know what you find out.
How do you pull out the trunk release switch from the dash ? The switch is flush with the panel which also has the mirror control and brightness setting switches or do you need to take off the section of the panel itself.

Please guide me and let me know incase any pics are available which demonstrate how this is done.

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How do you pull out the trunk release switch from the dash ? The switch is flush with the panel which also has the mirror control and brightness setting switches or do you need to take off the section of the panel itself.

Please guide me and let me know incase any pics are available which demonstrate how this is done.

Thanks

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I just don't remember exactly how I took switch out of dash, but do remember that it was not difficult. I'll have to try and remember to look tonite and get back with you tmo. I have an FSM I can look in also.
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How do you pull out the trunk release switch from the dash ? The switch is flush with the panel which also has the mirror control and brightness setting switches or do you need to take off the section of the panel itself.

Please guide me and let me know incase any pics are available which demonstrate how this is done.

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~A
You just use a small screwdriver and snap out the whole square panel with the vent, then pull out the switch from the back.
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Update :

The trunk switch in the dashboard was the culprit. On pulling it out, I realised the wires to one of the connectors was pulled out. Since this issue surfaced immediately after my car came back from the service at a local Scion dealership, there is a good chance that the mechanic who worked on my car did this on purpose.

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