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Old 09-23-2009, 05:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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2007 avalon limited, if the watch battery goes bad in your remote control, for the door locks you can use the key to get in the car. after you are in the car you can not start it, until you have a remote control with a good battery in it. so if you have just 1 remote with you and the watch battery goes bad you are cooked, your car will not start. what a poor set up, there shoud be a place to use the key for such an emergency. i would never have this option again. dave p

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Old 09-23-2009, 06:27 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Uhhhh....If you hold the keyfob upto the start button, the LED on the start button will change color (I forget what color) and allow you to start the car. I am sure this is in the manual somewhere.
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Old 09-23-2009, 07:34 PM   #3 (permalink)
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In addition - as the battery starts to go weak, when you shut off the ignition you'll hear a beep come from the dash. That's an indicator that your battery needs replacing.

RTFM my friend, RTFM...

I personally think the keyless entry and keyless start is brilliant.
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Uhhhh....If you hold the keyfob upto the start button, the LED on the start button will change color (I forget what color) and allow you to start the car. I am sure this is in the manual somewhere.
I believe it's green color. But U also have to apply the brake like normal.

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In addition - as the battery starts to go weak, when you shut off the ignition you'll hear a beep come from the dash. That's an indicator that your battery needs replacing.

RTFM my friend, RTFM...

I personally think the keyless entry and keyless start is brilliant.
Do you know how to go from ON to ACC without going to OFF with the keyless?
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Old 09-25-2009, 05:01 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Do you know how to go from ON to ACC without going to OFF with the keyless?
No. Not sure that's possible. It seems to be sequential (Off, Acc, On, Off...). Can't say I've read anything to the contrary.
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In addition - as the battery starts to go weak, when you shut off the ignition you'll hear a beep come from the dash. That's an indicator that your battery needs replacing.

RTFM my friend, RTFM...

I personally think the keyless entry and keyless start is brilliant.
Have to agree with Tom.......

Keyless start is the Bomb!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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There are a few down sides to it. like that unable to go strait to ACC without the complete off. And why can't the door auto lock when it don't detect the key?
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There are a few down sides to it. like that unable to go strait to ACC without the complete off. And why can't the door auto lock when it don't detect the key?
if u want to go straight to acc from on then leave the car in neutral push the button then go to park
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Push button start is the main reason I bought the car.Well said,Tom.
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I agree that when the smart key works properly it is great. But i also agree with the original poster that if there is a problem it is a big problem.

My '07 Avalon Limited is now sitting in the driveway, blocking the garage because it won't start. I have held the key fob up to the start button - no go. I have replaced the batteries in the fob - no go. The fob works the door locks and pops the trunk, just won't start the car.

It's frustrating because its a saturday and i'll have to wait until Monday to call the dealership to try to get this thing going.

Does anyone have any other suggestions i can try to start my Avalon?

Thanks!
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Make absolutely sure that the battery is making contact in the key fob. The slightest amount of contamination can prevent making contact. Bend the contacts to make sure they're pressing onto the battery.
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Tom, thanks for the suggestion. Still no go after bending the contacts. I really think the problem is in the car, not the fob. The fob locks and unlocks the doors and i'm sure the battery is fresh.

Thanks again for the suggestion - any others?
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Can you get turn on the Accessories by pushing the button with your foot off the brake pedal?
If yes, try starting with the transmission in Neutral instead of Park.
Check to be sure the "back-up" (reverse) lights are working. If the fuse for the back-up lights is blown, push button start is disabled. I learned this the hard way.
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One other thought - make sure there isn't another transponder nearby that might interfere with the one for the Avalon.
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Tom, thanks for the suggestion. Still no go after bending the contacts. I really think the problem is in the car, not the fob. The fob locks and unlocks the doors and i'm sure the battery is fresh.

Thanks again for the suggestion - any others?
Well, if the key fob battery is okay, then you sure the car battery is registering over 12 volts? You can have power inside the car, but the ECU won't activate the starter until there's enough juice in the car battery, and it needs quite a bit. If you've experienced any extreme weather, use a multimeter to test battery output. If below 12.5v, charge it for the day and try again. Testing the battery under load is a good indicator of whether the battery has gone bad.

The brake indicator switch may have crapped out. This sends the brake signal to the appropriate things, like the ECU and push button start controller.

Other than that, the only other thing I can think of is a transponder issue. There was a way to reprogram chipped keys using a special in-car sequence, but I'm not sure if you can do it with the push button start system. It'll likely need to be connected to a Toyota scantool if there's a problem with that.
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