Please take this with a grain of salt because it is one of those "a friend of a friend told me" posts. I have no way to confirm the information myself.
I talked to my father in law (who is in the Chicago area) about my plans to buy a used 2009 Avalon in the USA to bring it into Canada (where I live). I would need to stay over at his place for around 1 week to buy the car, then drive it back.
My dad-in-law went to his dealer yesterday, to take a look at the Avalons. He has a relationship with that dealer, after buying and servicing a few toyotas with them for the last ~10 years.
So after explaining what we are trying to do, his salesman told him that the new Avalon is coming out "SOON" (whatever that means), and the changes and improvements are quite significant, and he expect to have a "fire sale" on '09 and '10 leftovers. He is suggesting us to wait and either buy the new car or try to get a deal on the previous model.
Here comes the BS: According to him, the next Avalon comes with leather seats standard even in the base model - because Toyota is dropping the "XL" and the car will be available only as XLS and Limited.
So what do you think? Is he right? Is the new avalon coming out in the spring, as some people have been posting?
Does it make sense for toyota to drop the "XL" trim? Should I wait until Toyota makes the official announcement? Would the used Avalons come down in price?
I suggest visiting you local dealer to ask about ordering a 2010 from the factory with exactly the color and options combination you prefer. If the reply is the factory is no longer accepting orders for 2010s, it may mean they are retooling to build sufficient quantities of a new model to fill the dealer pipeline.
I do know someone who works for a large dealership and they say the same.April the new 2011 Avalons will be out with completely new design.They are on that five or ten year cycle of change.So they said to wait for the 2011 model.but I would bet 2010's will be on great sale but limited choices.I just wish I knew how much of a physical change there was....
Did either of your dealer friends say it will be aesthetically pleasing at all. I mean, I like the current look, especially the interior, but it needs a change. How will it look? When will it be ANNOUNCED????
No,not at all.not sure if they know.Will have to wait to see.They did say will be available April.I do hope the exterior gets somemore lines in it.Right now it is a little boring.Though I must admit the interior is fantastic...
As we enter a new decade, with a still slow economy, it would pay dividends to keep customers happy. My wish list for a new Avalon is far simpler than changing body styles or adding a new gizmo.
1. I just hope Toyota engineers have been paying attention and working on making the adaptive transmission more reliable, and less quirky.
2. The issues of valve noise are real, and need to be dealt with before another sludge PR disaster occurs. This is not a good time to be getting your name in the press for recalls.
3. Do something to add trunk space.
4. Put a GD button in to shut the GD traction control OFF. It gets embarrassing in the winter months.
5. If you feel a real need to come out with a Sport edition, try to develop some seats with lateral supports.
6. Time spent on quality control and solid engineering will eliminate the need to come up with excuses and brick wall policies when confronted with angry customers. It's a new era in the auto world, and you can be replaced quickly. Learn from the failed practices of GM.
I agree. There are small pickup trucks with smaller beds than the Avalon's trunk.
Any increase in trunk size would have to be at the expense of backseat space. Let's leave it alone, if you please...
It's really not that large, a little smaller than the Camry. The real compromise was the reclining seat feature. I agree with the rear seat room, leave that alone. But I could fit all of our clubs in the trunk of my old 1996 Av a lot easier, this one was trimmed in height by the stylists. I also had a boat cooler I fit in my old trunk, not anymore.
We are about 20 days away from the national unveiling of it. It will be at the Chicago Autoshow starting February 11th. I'll be working the show on the 17th so I can give you some hands-on opinions on it then.
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No kidding a huge hit. My 2006 Av is now on the lot for a week or more, as they order parts for what they claim is the VVti recall, I think it's a sludge issue. They need to drop the engine and have a laundry list of parts. I had the floor-mat recall, the oil hose recall, then the pedal, and now this recall is only being fixed because this is my third trip back. Not impressive at all.
They need to regroup, and get back to being what they were. My first Toyota was a 1977 Corolla, my oldest was a 1975 Celica. They need to save face and nip this in the bud. Regardless of market share or any other nonsense, they need to be what they were.
My dealer was flashing brand new Corollas tonight, plus installing the pedal fixes after hours. They also had three Tacomas up on the lifts for frame installations. I guess that was the customer choice. This is a very expensive year for Toyota, in more ways than one.
My Avalon has now spent more time in the shop than all of my previous Toyotas, combined.
No kidding a huge hit. My 2006 Av is now on the lot for a week or more, as they order parts for what they claim is the VVti recall, I think it's a sludge issue. They need to drop the engine and have a laundry list of parts. I had the floor-mat recall, the oil hose recall, then the pedal, and now this recall is only being fixed because this is my third trip back. Not impressive at all.
They need to regroup, and get back to being what they were. My first Toyota was a 1977 Corolla, my oldest was a 1975 Celica. They need to save face and nip this in the bud. Regardless of market share or any other nonsense, they need to be what they were.
My dealer was flashing brand new Corollas tonight, plus installing the pedal fixes after hours. They also had three Tacomas up on the lifts for frame installations. I guess that was the customer choice. This is a very expensive year for Toyota, in more ways than one.
My Avalon has now spent more time in the shop than all of my previous Toyotas, combined.
...and what does your justified mini-rant have to do with the 2011 Avalon?
I wrote the original post on this thread, back in December 22 2009. If you please go back, you can see that I had doubts about the information my father-in-law got from this Toyota sales guy.
However, the salesman was right!
Back in December, he told my father in law that...
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Originally Posted by Marcos Santiago
According to him, the next Avalon comes with leather seats standard even in the base model - because Toyota is dropping the "XL" and the car will be available only as XLS and Limited.
So what do you think? Is he right? Is the new avalon coming out in the spring, as some people have been posting?
Does it make sense for toyota to drop the "XL" trim? Should I wait until Toyota makes the official announcement? Would the used Avalons come down in price?
As we all know, a few days ago Toyota posted the press release on their website confirming that the Avalon is available in oly two versions, both with leather, and the base XL is gone.
I'm posting more fresh information from this same salesman - pricing for the 2011 model (again, I have no way to confirm the information myself)... to quote him, he said "aggresive pricing structure for cars and options"
2011 Avalon msrp - A little bit cheaper that the 2010 XLS
2011 Avalon Ltd msrp - Same as 2010 Limited
And he told me that he cannot sell me a brand new car, it has to be a used one if I want to export out of the US...
Is this guy going to be right again about the price?
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